i.e. Google. Wait till AT*T gets their fingers into the pie...
On 03/05/2019 04:11 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
And if they think they can do it in a year, bet that it will take them at least 3 years.-- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}comOn Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:50 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:And even worse trying run then one they are substantially complete. On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 5:39 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Muni fiber has a lousy track record of actually completing functional networks. *From:* Christopher Gray *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:26 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Examples of Proposals to Sell WISP Network? I’ve made several inquiries. Originally, I was on the bid list to actually be the ISP on the network, but they went municipal to skip the bidding process (the committee decided it would be easier to do, and I understand their perspective). They are not allowing any other interaction with outside companies, but the committee says after the first contract is up they may make it open… which is 3 years out.____ ____ I’ll I hadn’t thought about how long it will take relative to losing customers, thank you for pointing that out. They’re currently estimating almost a year to get the whole town connected. I’m seeing some good ideas to share as part of a proposal. ____ ____ *From:* AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:39 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Examples of Proposals to Sell WISP Network?____ ____ Would it make more sense to inquire about an arrangement where you could resell the FTTH service to your current customers? Assumption being that you would get a lower wholesale price that you could mark up to the same retail price, also probably some arrangement where you would do part of the installation work and handle first level tech support, let customers keep their email addresses, etc.?____ ____ I assume they won’t complete the FTTH build overnight, so this would allow for a gradual transition. You could migrate customers to FTTH as it passed their house, and eventually decommission your WISP gear in that area.____ ____ If you can’t sell and instead decide to just turn off the lights and close the door behind you, but then it takes the FTTH buildanother 6 months to reach all the customers, there are going to be a bunch of pissed off residents.________ If they expect you to keep serving fewer and fewer customers as they deploy their fiber, it’s like expecting you to dig your own grave. Yes, some customers may not switch (depending on comparative pricing), and perhaps they would buy you out (I’m skeptical). But you’ve probably done the math. Would you be profitable with half as many customers? A quarter? At some point it just doesn’t make sense to stick around in that area.____ ____ *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:20 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Examples of Proposals to Sell WISP Network?____ ____ I'm with Matt. I don't know what your projections are based on but when I did research to replace my WISP network with a fiber one in a small town the take rate as expressed by existing customers was so low it didn't make sense. Maybe 5% expressed a desire to switch regardless of price and only about half would switch if the price was the same. Speed was a concern for about 25%. Of course that is purely anecdotal not to mention old.____ ____ Anyway, a large percentage are very price sensative. That isn't to say the muni won't do it way below cost. That seems to be how most of them think.____ ____ On the valuation, I don't know anyone that nows what they are doing that pays per sub anymore. Again, the muni probably doesn't know what they are doing so you might get lucky. All purchases I have seen in the last few tyears are all revenue based of some sort. EBIDTA, Gross, Net. Really just however the buyer wants to see it. The numbers always seem to work out pretty close. But you never know, maybe they want it as a warm boot to their FTTH plans. ____ ____ ____ ____ On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 2:29 PM Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> wrote:____ Devils advocate. Why would they buy it if all the customers will just move over?____ ____ I wouldn’t be so sure they will all leave. If you treat them right and aren’t gouging them on price many will probably lot stay. ____ On Mar 5, 2019, at 3:19 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:____ So much per customer. I would say $500-$2000 depending on the number of subs, the type of equipment and the part of the country. $1000/ sub is a low starting point. ____ ____ *From:*Christopher Gray ____ *Sent:*Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:11 PM____ *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____ *Subject:*[AFMUG] Examples of Proposals to Sell WISP Network?____ ____ Does anyone here have an example of a proposal used to sell your network or part of your network? You can provide it offline if necessary.____ ____ [I'm in a position where the local government is actually overbuilding my WISP network with a FTTH network. My projections show I'm going to lose the business in the particular area entirely, so I want to offer to sell it to the town. 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