Are you sure the gear reduction box is a true 15:1 or is there some fudge
factor there?

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:46 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
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> Well that's irritating.
>
> Assuming the VFD is putting out the frequency you think it is, and
> that's a 4 pole motor, and the gearbox ratio is what you think it is,
> my math would agree with yours .... it should be putting out 2 RPM per
> Hertz.
>
> I mention the "assuming" part of all of the above because back in my
> industrial automation days I've seen nameplates not match reality on
> both gearboxes and motors.  I don't remember what was different on the
> motor, but I've definitely seen a gearbox which wasn't the stamped
> ratio as I specifically remember hand cranking a gearbox and counting
> the input:output ratio and finding it different than the stamped
> ratio.
>
> I just remembered something else....  have you verified the motor is
> wired correctly?    Sometimes a mis-wired or not-connected winding can
> do weird stuff like this.    Depending on the motor it may also need
> to be wired differently for wye vs delta, etc.
>
> There is also always a bit of slip between the calculated RPM and the
> actual running RPM - induction motors have to run slower in order to
> develop torque.,  But this seems far enough out that this probably
> isn't it.
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:26 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > It has 4 poles printed on the nameplate.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Mar 21, 2019, at 6:15 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > What is the nameplate RPM and Hertz on this motor?
> > >
> > > Assuming a 4 pole motor, you'll have (frequency*120)/poles = RPM
> > >
> > > So if you have a 4 pole motor running at 10Hz, you'll find that it
> runs at 10*120/4 = 300 RPM    After the 15:1 gearbox, you'd have 20 RPM at
> 10 Hz.
> > >
> > > It's linear so 2 RPM per HZ.    So at 5 Hz you should get 10RPM.    So
> you've got something off.
> > >
> > > Let's assume that you are just wrong with the poles.    26 RPM * 15 =
> 390RPM.      Then, (10*120)/poles = 390.      1200/poles=390.   Looks like
> it might be a 3 pole motor.
> > >
> > > Back the other way:
> > >
> > > 3 Pole Motor @ 10 hz = 10*120/3 = 400 rpm / 15:1 = 26.666 RPM.
>  That's in the right range.
> > >
> > > Would 26.666RPM be in the range of your measurement/VFD accuracy?
> > >
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