I believe path profiles and FCC licensing are true bearings.

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 8:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner

Now I have to ask, what is it in path profiles? Ive always used visual landmarks

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 8:48 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I built a 5 meter earth station foundation wrong because the transit I 
borrowed from the forest station had declination already dialed into the 
compass and I adjusted for it a second time visually when laying out the forms.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 13, 2019, at 6:30 AM, Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote:


    Magnetic declination depends on where in the world you are located and it 
does change over time. Most topographic 7.5 minute quad maps show that 
declination in the legend area. For me it’s about 12.5 degrees west of north, 
in other areas like the pacific northwest it’s about 14 to 16 degrees east of 
North. Important information to know. Years ago we had drawings from an 
engineering firm that showed the declination from true to magnetic but they put 
it in the wrong direction so the error on the drawings was over 40 degrees 
(based on 1998 declinations) and as such the tower antenna platform got 
installed wrong.



    A good map showing the details can be viewed here including the years as to 
what declination was applied at the time. It does change over time. Surveyors 
need to know this if they are trying to set property lines based on an old 
legal description.



    https://maps.ngdc.noaa.gov/viewers/historical_declination/





    Thank You,

    Brian Webster

    www.wirelessmapping.com

    www.Broadband-Mapping.com



    From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
    Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 6:58 PM
    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner



    You’re not making me less confused.



    Back when I was teaching cub scouts to use a compass, was I teaching them a 
bunch of crap?





    From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
    Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 5:48 PM
    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner



    14 for me.



    From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
    Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 3:18 PM
    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner



    It is only 1 or 2 degrees where you live but it is probably 15 degrees 
where Bill lives.  



    From: Ken Hohhof 

    Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 4:14 PM

    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner



    Whenever I see the difference between magnetic and true north I get 
confused about which one we’re supposedly using and decide 1 or 2 degrees 
doesn’t matter on a 90 degree sector.  Plus I get lazy and just align the 
sectors to the tower faces or the roads.



    From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel White
    Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 4:37 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna Aligner



    I've used the 3Z and Sunsight ones some.  It was a few years ago though.

    Really it boils down if you want the screen on the device or to use your 
phone or sometheneing else.  I'd probably go with Sunsight personally, but 
either are a good investment.



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    SmarterBroadband wrote on 5/10/19 15:28:

      Thinking of getting an Antenna Aligner for Sector and Dish alignment.



      Choices seem to be



      Multiwave Smart Aligner

      3Z Telecom RF Vision

      Sunsight



      Anyone have experience of any of these?



      Thanks



      Adam






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