You’d think that SpaceX is highly profitable and is using those
profits to expand into the satellite Internet business. But
actually there is debate whether SpaceX is profitable without
accounting tricks, and even if it is profitable, the margins
are very thin. Reportedly the geostationary launch business is
softening, and SpaceX is actually looking to Starlink for
profits. No doubt it helps if you can launch your own
satellites, maybe even having them ride along while you get
paid to launch stuff for paying customers. But this sounds
like a pretty risky venture, paid for with borrowed money. If
it wasn’t risky, it wouldn’t be Elon, right?____
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*From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Mike
Hammett
*Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2019 12:04 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites
Are All Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space____
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I would suspect they are going to have hundreds of earth
stations as opposed to one or two earth stations that legacy
platforms have. Up to the bird, maybe across one or two birds,
and back down to the fiber-fed earth stations. I've seen the
numbers, but I forgot the numbers. It's real bandwidth at each
one.____
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*From: *"Tim Withrow via AF" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Cc: *"Tim Withrow" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Saturday, June 1, 2019 4:43:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites
Are All Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space____
What kind of bandwidth capacity could each satellite have at
any given point?
What is the usable bandwidth of their system? Who makes a
radio that big to carry/transmit such capacity or is it an
aggregate of small radio's?____
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On Saturday, June 1, 2019 Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:____
Naturally, we're all thinking about what effect this will have
in rural America, but I am also wondering if this would have
some effect on China's "great firewall"?____
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bp____
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>____
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On 6/1/2019 1:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:____
I think one factor advocacy groups and govt critters need to
keep in mind is that instead of robust competition, what could
occur is “disruptive” pricing, having the effect of
discouraging or bankrupting the competition. And now some new
entrant is the only game in town. And if it turns out to be
unreliable, or not to have enough capacity, or their speeds
are actually best effort, or their satellites start dropping
out of the sky, or whatever, people can’t switch back to their
old provider. Like being dissatisfied with online stores and
assuming you can always switch back to the old brick and mortar
store, from Uber and Lyft back to taxis and limos. Sorry, they
don’t exist anymore.____
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This is unlikely to happen in big cities, I doubt Comcast will
go bankrupt because of Starlink. But to just assume there will
be lots of choices out in the middle of nowhere driving the
price down without any of them turning off the lights, seems a
little naïve.____
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And to assume big megacorps like SpaceX, Amazon, Googe,
Facebook, etc. would never price below cost to be “disruptive”
also seems naïve.____
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*From:*AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Bill
Prince
*Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2019 3:20 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites
Are All Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space____
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Sure. But after the clouds, geostationary still needs to go
another 23,000 miles. LEO only has to go a few hundred.____
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bp____
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>____
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On 6/1/2019 10:47 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:____
Clouds are generally a lot lower than a couple hundred
miles... ____
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On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:58 AM Bill Prince
<[email protected]> wrote:____
Maybe at geostationary distances, but these are only a
few hundred miles up.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 6/1/2019 8:56 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> Don't those bands have significant attenuation issues
with like...
> clouds?
>
> On 6/1/19 10:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> According to Wikipedia, they will be on Ku, Ka, and
V bands.
>>
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_(satellite_constellation)
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 6/1/2019 7:46 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>> Wonder what frequencies they will use?
>>>
>>>
https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-satellites-phone-home-dimmin
g.html
>>>
>>>
>>
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