Hmmm, I have a Bison battery box at one site and specifically got it in bright 
white powder coat.  Maybe a mistake?  Probably depends on climate and whether 
the box is in direct sun.  We have some grain elevator sites where our 
equipment is in the shade year round due to giant grain bins.  But where a box 
is out in the open, this time of year on a clear day a standard grey enclosure 
gets very, very hot.


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:41 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar load

We use black boxes for batteries as the increase in performance in the winter 
overrides the damage to the batteries in the summer


On 08/15/2019 04:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> The difference between standard machine grey and just bright white spray 
> paint from the hardware store is dramatic.  I suspect everything beyond 
> that is incremental.
> 
> Also back around 2005 when I ordered my first outdoor cabinet from DDB, 
> I thought I wanted unpainted metal aluminum since all the traffic 
> control boxes I see are plain metal or stainless steel.  The salesperson 
> said I absolutely didn’t want plain metal because it would get hot in 
> the sun and what I wanted was the cream color.
> 
> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 6:19 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar load
> 
> If you look up insulating paint on Wikipedia, the entry there says all 
> ceramic heat-reflective coatings are snake oil.
> 
> I did find a good discussion on Scientific American 
> (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/benefits-of-insulating-paint/). 
> They don't exactly describe it as snake oil, but they also suggest that 
> you not get your hopes up.
> 
> I suspect you can get your best results with a coat of reflective white 
> paint, and try to keep it clean.
> 
> bp
> 
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 8/15/2019 1:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
>     Be interesting to do a bake off between this and the plain
>     “satellite white” I use.
> 
>     I have always found it interesting that highly reflective things
>     like polished aluminum, chrome and silver paint seem to be really
>     bad at reflecting heat/sun.  But we have all grabbed a chrome wrench
>     that has been left in the hot summer sun and realized hot much it
>     absorbs.  I am guessing what we see as reflective, Infra Red sees as
>     flat black.
> 
>     *From:*Bill Prince
> 
>     *Sent:*Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:46 PM
> 
>     *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> 
>     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Solar load
> 
>     Which reminds me of this material that a friend clued me in on.
> 
>     You can get this at Home Depot (for example). It is pricey; around
>     $250 per 5 gallon bucket, AND it needs a top coat of another
>     material at near the same price. However, for an advertised
>     reduction in temperature of over 60 degrees F, it may be worth a look.
> 
>         https://superiorcoatingsolutions.com/super-therm/
> 
>     bp
> 
>     <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>     On 8/15/2019 12:35 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> 
>         I remember Chuck doing a study on this same subject so I thought
>         there might be some interest.
> 
>         Cabinet heat load
>         
> <https://www.ddbunlimited.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Solar-Load-on-DDB-Enclosures.pdf>
> 
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> 
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> 
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