Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Bill Prince Tue, 20 Aug 2019 20:13:24 -0700

Put this on it.

1920x1080 twinkie wallpaper

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On 8/20/2019 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

> Roku, Twinkie, Camera, Slim Jim and Cell Phone

Friends of Timmy, PJ and Squee?

Or Sarah Palin’s kids?

Or drug dealers coming to Maine like D-Money, Smoothie and Shifty.

Maybe just rapper names.

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 8:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

IMHO, thugs are thugs because they lack the intelligence and / or the self discipline to learn something valuable like IT. I would guess they could not pick an NVR out of a collection of a Roku, Twinkie, Camera, Slim Jim and Cell Phone.

From: Bill Prince

Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 7:32 PM

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Plus they're easy to hide.
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On 8/20/2019 6:28 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
For the average home owner I doubt a stolen NVR is real high on the threat list.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 5:51 PM Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:
Problem with NVR's though is if it is a burglary... you can easily walk away with the evidence. If the video is in the cloud... you have it up till they destroy the camera or internet connection.

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Ken Hohhof wrote on 8/20/19 16:39:
Good point about the NVR.  Having one camera stream directly to the cloud may sound like a good idea, but what happens when you start adding cameras, inside and outside  the house.  An NVR gives you local storage and viewing for all the cameras, but still allows notifications and remote viewing.  I guess the privacy aspect of having all your security cam video "up in the cloud" somewhere won't bother people if they're already OK with Alexa and Facebook and Google snooping on them.
 
It used to be people would buy an NVR system with 4-8 analog cameras and an Internet connection on the NVR, now I see the kits are coming with digital cameras, some are WiFi, some are POE.  But getting people to run Cat5 cable is sooooooooo difficult these days, unless they have the electricians wire the house for data while it's being built.
 
 
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From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Andrew Haninger
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 4:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)
 
Here's a good thread that recently came up on /.
https://ask.slashdot.org/story/19/08/02/2129207/ask-slashdot-budget-friendly-webcam-without-a-cloud-service
 
On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:28 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:[email protected] wrote:
Security cameras seem to be all the rage.  Many WiFi issues, but also I’m tired of seeing them stream up to the cloud and then back down to the customer’s phone when he’s sitting in his living room.  I understand when they are away, they want to be alerted and shown a video of the UPS guy’s butt walking away from the house.  But it seems very wasteful of bandwidth when the customer is at home, for the data to go house-Internet-cloud-Internet-house.  Or might go over cellular to the phone.
 
 
 
Aside from the wasted bandwidth, there is a lot more to go wrong than if everything stayed on their LAN.  Less complaining about missed alerts, delay, black screens, etc.
 
 
 
Does anybody know of a system sold in big box stores that can easily be set up to keep the video local, but still go over the Internet when the customer is away from home?  Or has everything become so cloud and Internet centric that you can’t watch a camera 20 feet away without going to the cloud and back?
 
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