Can not believe nobody else has chimed in with the good news here. Talked
to Matt at the Cambium Booth last week as Wispalooza, he said spring 2020
they will be releasing the old form factor SM again (5ghz only) with the
new 450b guts inside. He also said there will not be a speedcap. sounded
like $250/'ish price range. I can not tell you how amazing this was to hear
as we have literally over 500-700 reflectors out that is so convenient to
be able to just swap the bare SM and not have to do re-alignments.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:24 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe they just need to go with something like TwistPort and let 3rd party
> manufacturers sell dishes.  Oh, right, regulatory approvals.  Nonethless, I
> suspect that may be where they are headed with the connectorized SM.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2019 5:13 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SMs
>
>
>
> If they sold me a full 2' dish at 28dbi then I could definitely find
> places to use that.
>
>
>
> On 10/23/2019 5:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Yeah, a one year delay is a pretty big oops, but it’s not really a
> solution to the problem anyway.  Except that 450b gets rid of the hated
> speed caps and also enables 5.1 GHz sub band.  I’m not thrilled about SMA
> connectors on the top, KPP included a nice mounting post for the current
> style connectorized SM, I’ll have to see if it still works with the new SM.
>
>
>
> What they probably need is a slightly larger and also deeper parabolic
> dish, get the gain back to 25 dBi, and better sidelobe performance.  Or get
> to the bottom of why the 450d/450b style dish seems so much more
> susceptible to reflection and multipath degradation.  I think Cambium
> expected higher xmt power would compensate for lower antenna gain, but that
> does nothing for downstream.
>
>
>
> I heard a rumor they were redesigning or eliminating the cable gland?  Was
> that mentioned at Wispapalooza?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On Behalf
> Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SMs
>
>
>
> They are coming out with a 450b connectorized but at wispapalooza they
> said it was delayed until March 2020 (it was supposed to ship March of 2019)
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:04 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Okay I haven't paid a lot of attention to PMP450 since I've been in a
> Telrad shop for a few years.  It looks like the old style SM was
> discontinued.
>
> The Old SM + Reflector was said to have 25dbi of gain.
>
> The replacement 450b "high gain" integrated dish is 22dbi.
>
> Are you kidding me?  Cambium, why you takin' my db's away bro?
>
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