“structure will emit frequencies” seems pretty vague.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lawyer

 

Good points. I would suppose that an existing tower is unlikely to have been 
built without it but you never know.

But since the whole discussion started with legal issues that is likely the 
biggest one. It wasn't brought up until later that a 350' tower was close by. 

As you said, the FAA site has a criteria tool that tells you if you have to 
file. Nice catch.

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 8:22 PM Tim Hardy <thardy...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thardy...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Lewis,

 

I don’t have a comment on the NEPA side of this, but it should be pointed out 
that towers under 200’ can still require an ASR.  The 200’ requirement is one 
of many and the only way to know for sure is to run the FAA Notice Criteria 
tool here:  
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm

 

Here are some other instances where towers of any height can require an ASR: 

 

You must file with the FAA at least 45 days prior to construction if:

*       your structure will exceed 200ft above ground level
*       your structure will be in proximity to an airport and will exceed the 
slope ratio
*       your structure involves construction of a traverseway (i.e. highway, 
railroad, waterway etc...) and once adjusted upward with the appropriate 
vertical distance would exceed a standard of 77.9(a) or (b)
*       your structure will emit frequencies, and does not meet the conditions 
of the  
<https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/downloads/external/content/CVCC_FR_2007.pdf> FAA 
Co-location Policy
*       your structure will be in an instrument approach area and might exceed 
part 77 Subpart C
*       your proposed structure will be in proximity to a navigation facility 
and may impact the assurance of navigation signal reception
*       your structure will be on an airport or heliport
*       filing has been requested by the FAA

Thanks,

Tim

Sent from my iPad





On Oct 28, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Well, First, an ASR isn't required on anything 200 foot or under. So is it over 
200 foot? If yes and you don't plan on renting space out to someone else you 
technically don't need an ASR. You can get an ASR for almost any structure 
regardless of height. ASR's make some things easier, like getting licensed PTP 
links and letting people find the tower that might want to rent it for 
instance. If it is over 200 foot or already has an ASR, 

 

I won't bore you with the story but the fact it has no NEPA will likely only 
matter to a carrier. You can actually get an ASR and self certify that a NEPA 
isn't required in about 15 minutes if you have all the info in front of you and 
know what you are doing. The only reason you need a NEPA anyway is that the 
Feds say you need one to get an ASR, which is a Fed thing. No ASR needed, no 
NEPA required. NEPA can be frustrating. I spent months doing the work, hiring 
experts, etc, etc. all to come to the conclusion that no NEPA was required. It 
seems cyclical but the bottom line is you can do all the studies and if they 
come back clean the only place it is recorded is in the E-106 study, not the 
ASR.I'll show you an example of what I mean. The tower below had a full 
NEPA/NHPA

ASR 1302897 
<https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrRegistration.jsp?regKey=2702592> 

Here is the Enviro section. As you can see, it says " Environmental 
Notification is complete and an Environmental Assessment is not required. " You 
don't know it isn't required until you do it, but the effect of doing is the 
same as if you just clicked the box that it isn't required, one isn't needed. 
You can't submit an assessment if one isn't required, at least not the last 
time I did one. Kind of Catch 22 but if you tell the FCC that they can't even 
underatand why you would say that.



Environmental Compliance



Does the applicant request a Waiver of the Commission's rules for environmental 
notice?

Is the applicant submitting an Environmental Assessment?


No  

No  


Is another Federal Agency taking responsibility for environmental review?

Does the applicant certify to No Significant Environmental Effect pursuant to 
Section


No  

Yes  


Reason for another Federal Agency taking responsibility for environmental review

Basis for Certification


 

Environmental Notification is complete and an Environmental Assessment is not 
required.  


Name of Federal Agency

Local Notice Date


 

05/25/2017 


National Notice Date

        

05/30/2017 

                

 

Anyway, up to you for what its worth. The bottom line, you are not required to 
do anything if you don't want an ASR. If you do, you have to start playing the 
Feds games.

 

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:30 PM Roland Houin <rho...@fourway.net 
<mailto:rho...@fourway.net> > wrote:

My concern is that there are rumors that this site may not have been compliant 
with fcc requirements.

Tower installed after 2000, no nepa?

Want to make sure that there aren’t any suprises…

Thanks for the advice..

 

Roland

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:13 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lawyer

 

Funny, when I saw the original post my first thought was: “do whatever Lewis 
says to do”

 

From: Lewis Bergman 

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 6:11 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower lawyer

 

In my experience, lawyers are really good at screwing up deals. But, if you are 
buying an asset, there aren't a lot of legal issues that follow assets other 
than sales taxes. I'm not saying you don't need a lawyer, just that a lot of 
lawyers gum up the negotiations so bad you can't get a deal done. To save money 
and time you should a very well defined idea of what the lawyer is going to do 
for you and communicate that. They aren't experts in everything and they charge 
you for the time it takes them to learn stuff. 

 

The last tower I bought from Crown Castle all I got was a bill of sale. No 
contract, no nothing.

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:08 AM Roland Houin <rho...@fourway.net 
<mailto:rho...@fourway.net> > wrote:

Does anyone have recommendation for a lawyer etc to handle tower issued.

I’m thinking of purchasing a tower, & want to make sure it’s compliant with 
todays legal issues.

 

Roland

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