When my kids whine about me watching Star Trek re-runs the living room TV I go full old-man-mode and tell them how "when my dad was watching MASH that's what was on we'd go in another room if we didn't want to see it".  And "I remember when you didn't get to pick what was on, there were 3 channels and if you wanted to watch a certain show you had look at the TV Guide and plan to be at the TV at the right time."

--next time I'll try to explain the rabbit ear antennas and see if I get a good eye roll.

Now where's my rocking chair?


On 12/11/2019 8:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Definitely.  Not even close.

I think one of the factors is the same though, watching by yourself.  You don’t exactly have the whole family sitting in front of the TV watching porn together, same with video streaming.  If there are 5 people in the household, they are watching 5 different videos on 5 separate devices.  I know because that’s what people tell me they want to do now when they call to order Internet.

That probably contributes to the divisions in society today, what some people call tribalism.  With personal devices and the Internet, everyone can watch their own news, have their own facts, and live in their own silo. My silo is good and true, your silo is evil and fake news.

When I was a kid, we had the 1 TV set in the living room, and the whole family watched the same show, whether it was Walter Cronkite with the news, or Bonanza or Gunsmoke (my dad liked westerns), or Saturday morning cartoons.  When I was in college, we had a TV lounge in the dorm, and you’d have 20-30 kids all watching Star Trek or Laugh In or Rocky and Bullwinkle.  I assume that experience of voting on what to watch and then everybody watching the same show doesn’t exist anymore.  Most people probably say good riddance, but I think maybe something valuable got lost in the process.

*From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2019 6:52 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generating traffic

I wonder if porn is still the largest driver of traffic.  I’ll guess not.  I would bet streaming TV is.

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Wednesday, December 11, 2019 5:38 PM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Generating traffic

https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-07-26

*From:*AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2019 6:31 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Generating traffic

I never considered that, but I bet a Windows server with no firewall would get hammered

I had a whole ixia suite once but got nervous about that dollar amount in bootleg software so I got rid of it.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019, 3:12 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Set up a free proxy to the world, if you build it they will come.

    *From:*Adam Moffett

    *Sent:*Wednesday, December 11, 2019 2:05 PM

    *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Generating traffic

    You could put a web server on one side and an http stress test
    tool on the other.  There are several such tools to pick from.
    That's all I've got.

    It would be interesting to have something that generated a
    statistically normal spread of simulated internet usage, but I'm
    not aware of such a tool.

    -Adam

    On 12/11/2019 4:00 PM, David Coudron wrote:

        I am not sure if there were any other replies to this, and I
        have been slow as I am far from an expert.   This is a tough
        thing to do correctly in my opinion without a pretty
        complicated setup.   The easiest and simplest thing would be
        to set up a few spare computers on the NATed side and have
        them run iPerf to your set of clients.   But you need a good
        Virtual Hosting device to allow for both ends of this and
        you’ll quickly outrun your ethernet connectivity on your host
        device once you get past 6-7 VMs.   So you’ll have to have
        multiple devices on both sides to do any amount of this.  
        That is about the best I know.

        Regards,

        David Coudron

        *From:*AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Steve
        Jones
        *Sent:* Monday, December 9, 2019 11:59 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
        *Subject:* [AFMUG] Generating traffic

        I need to test out a mikrotik BMU (Powercode)

        What I need to do is generate a ton of traffic from various
        devices and types (primarily I want to load NAT)

        Is there some software I can do a VM on each side that will
        mimic a bunch of clients with various types of traffic, say 50
        clients and 150mbps of traffic 10k NAT sessions. so 50 virtual
        macs to a bunch of "public" virtual IPs.

        Im not really concerned with the host hardware being able to
        generate the traffic well or reliably

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