I have an AF24HD going 9.5 miles, linking at 700M+ both ways. Bounces between 9X and 10X
I also have a Siklu 80GHz with 2ft dishes going 3+ miles with 10G capacity. > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't think so. In moderate rain zones the AF24HD can go 2 miles, and maybe > some change. I'm not sure how far you can go on 80 GHz, but I'm pretty sure > it isn't that far. > > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 2/26/2020 9:08 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> Is the range equivalent? >> >> From: Kurt Fankhauser <> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex >> >> for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x >> the throughput! >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mathew Howard <[email protected] <>> >> wrote: >> Good to know. That's an incredibly good deal... definitely what I'd go with. >> You'll probably be paying at least that for a 1Gbps link from any of the >> other manufacturers. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:20 AM Darin Steffl <[email protected] <>> >> wrote: >> Yes I ran into the same thing with the web store showing a higher cost. >> >> Just reach out to Ken and he'll quote you the pricing I'm talking about. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 9:05 AM Josh Baird <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> It may be WISPA member pricing. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:02 AM Mathew Howard <[email protected] <>> >> wrote: >> Is there some kind of special pricing or something? I logged into my Aviat >> account, and it's looking more like $7k for a link to me. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:05 AM Josh Baird <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> Yes - this is the WTM4800. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:53 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> That is an insane value proposition over the AF24HD. >> >> Which specific radio, the 10G single band 4800? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected] <>> >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] <>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex >> >> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with >> dishes and everything. >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> Good choice Lewis! >> >> We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really >> amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they keep on >> keepin on!! >> >> -Sean >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected] <>> >> wrote: >> Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot. >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected] <>> >> wrote: >> At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it really >> comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific requirements. >> >> If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can get, then >> just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for that band, so >> just pick your favorite vendor and buy what they have. >> If you do want to go cheap, then there are a few things to consider. >> Ignitenet an Ubiquiti (although I don't think their radios are actually >> shipping yet), have an extra channel at the top end of the band that can get >> a bit better range, which the Mikrotiks can't (legally) use... but that's >> not really going to make a lot of difference at that distance anyway. >> Ignitenet is the only one with an SFP port, if that matters, and they also >> have a radio that's capable of 2.5gbps, instead of only 1gpbs... they're >> also the most expensive of the cheap options. Mikrotik uses a beam forming >> antenna, so they're about 100000x easier to aim then the Ignitenets (I >> believe Ubiquiti does as well, but I haven't used their radios yet). >> >> None of the cheap 60ghz radios are true full duplex radios, but I think >> they're all capable of delivering a full gig in each direction at the same >> time. >> >> If you don't want cheap, but don't want to deal with 80ghz licensing (which >> is pretty cheap and simple, but it is another thing that has to be done), >> then Siklu 60ghz would probably be a good option. Or you could just stick >> with AF24HD, which will certainly do the job, but considering what they >> cost, it makes more sense to me to just go with 80ghz at that distance. You >> could also go with Mimosa B24 for 24ghz, but they're half duplex radios, and >> I don't think that they can handle a full 2gbps aggregate. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM dave <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> I guess it depends on the 9s you want. >> Cheaper is not always better for consistency. >> >> >> >> <Vcard.jpg> >> On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote: >> No way I would consider AF24HD for this. You can get 80ghz links for less >> that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps). >> >> Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat. Aviat probably >> gives you the best bang for your buck. Cambium has a new mmWave product, >> but I don't know anything about it. >> >> Josh >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM dave <[email protected] <>> wrote: >> Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will take all of >> your 5g spectrum and >> there is the ptp850E >> >> >> <Vcard.jpg> >> On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >> What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium >> has something that looks like it will work but their product selector >> returns no matches . >> >> Ubiquiti has the 24HD. >> >> Anything else I should be aware of? >> -- >> Lewis Bergman >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> >> -- >> Lewis Bergman >> 325-439-0533 Cell >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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