the original post was for a .6km range, thats pretty short, im sure 80ghz would do well on that range
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:12 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think so. In moderate rain zones the AF24HD can go 2 miles, and > maybe some change. I'm not sure how far you can go on 80 GHz, but I'm > pretty sure it isn't that far. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 2/26/2020 9:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Is the range equivalent? > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex > > for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and > 10x the throughput! > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Good to know. That's an incredibly good deal... definitely what I'd go >> with. You'll probably be paying at least that for a 1Gbps link from any of >> the other manufacturers. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:20 AM Darin Steffl <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes I ran into the same thing with the web store showing a higher cost. >>> >>> Just reach out to Ken and he'll quote you the pricing I'm talking about. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 9:05 AM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It may be WISPA member pricing. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:02 AM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there some kind of special pricing or something? I logged into my >>>>> Aviat account, and it's looking more like $7k for a link to me. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:05 AM Josh Baird <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes - this is the WTM4800. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:53 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That is an insane value proposition over the AF24HD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which specific radio, the 10G single band 4800? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k >>>>>>> with dishes and everything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good choice Lewis! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been >>>>>>>> really amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they >>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>> on keepin on!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so >>>>>>>>>> it really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and >>>>>>>>>> specific >>>>>>>>>> requirements. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you >>>>>>>>>> can get, then just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> that band, so just pick your favorite vendor and buy what they have. >>>>>>>>>> If you do want to go cheap, then there are a few things to >>>>>>>>>> consider. Ignitenet an Ubiquiti (although I don't think their radios >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> actually shipping yet), have an extra channel at the top end of the >>>>>>>>>> band >>>>>>>>>> that can get a bit better range, which the Mikrotiks can't (legally) >>>>>>>>>> use... >>>>>>>>>> but that's not really going to make a lot of difference at that >>>>>>>>>> distance >>>>>>>>>> anyway. Ignitenet is the only one with an SFP port, if that matters, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> they also have a radio that's capable of 2.5gbps, instead of only >>>>>>>>>> 1gpbs... >>>>>>>>>> they're also the most expensive of the cheap options. Mikrotik uses >>>>>>>>>> a beam >>>>>>>>>> forming antenna, so they're about 100000x easier to aim then the >>>>>>>>>> Ignitenets >>>>>>>>>> (I believe Ubiquiti does as well, but I haven't used their radios >>>>>>>>>> yet). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> None of the cheap 60ghz radios are true full duplex radios, but I >>>>>>>>>> think they're all capable of delivering a full gig in each direction >>>>>>>>>> at the >>>>>>>>>> same time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you don't want cheap, but don't want to deal with 80ghz >>>>>>>>>> licensing (which is pretty cheap and simple, but it is another thing >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> has to be done), then Siklu 60ghz would probably be a good option. >>>>>>>>>> Or you >>>>>>>>>> could just stick with AF24HD, which will certainly do the job, but >>>>>>>>>> considering what they cost, it makes more sense to me to just go >>>>>>>>>> with 80ghz >>>>>>>>>> at that distance. You could also go with Mimosa B24 for 24ghz, but >>>>>>>>>> they're >>>>>>>>>> half duplex radios, and I don't think that they can handle a full >>>>>>>>>> 2gbps >>>>>>>>>> aggregate. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM dave <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on the 9s you want. >>>>>>>>>>> Cheaper is not always better for consistency. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No way I would consider AF24HD for this. You can get 80ghz >>>>>>>>>>> links for less that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat. >>>>>>>>>>> Aviat probably gives you the best bang for your buck. Cambium has >>>>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>>>> mmWave product, but I don't know anything about it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM dave <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will >>>>>>>>>>>> take all of your 5g spectrum and >>>>>>>>>>>> there is the ptp850E >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What are the current recommendations for something like this. I >>>>>>>>>>>> see Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their >>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>> selector returns no matches . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ubiquiti has the 24HD. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anything else I should be aware of? >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Lewis Bergman >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Lewis Bergman >>>>>>>>> 325-439-0533 Cell >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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