See, I only cared about the digital stuff.   Though power, motors, etc. were 
pretty cool as well.   Grades were good in those classes.   

Senior project the advisor dinged me for building a system for a plant out of a 
microcontroller instead of using a PLC like he suggested.   But I want to do 
Microcontrollers.   Yep, first job was building industrial control systems with 
PLC’s.   I’m guessing I was a completely cocky bastard as a 21 year old.   
Perhaps someday I’ll grow out of that.   Or not.

Heh, calculus.   My last all night study session managed to turn a perfectly 
good B+ in differential equations into a D.   Walked in to that exam and drew a 
complete blank.  Should have just slept, probably would have aced it.

Mark

> On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Those were the ONLY classes I cared about.  Got A’s in all things antenna and 
> RF.
> Got A’s in most of the linear stuff. 
>  
> Got the B’s in the digital crap that doesn’t matter to anyone....  (those 
> guys are called bit freaks)
> Got a C- in integral calculus. 
>  
> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 8:42 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>  
> Hey, I was proud of that D in Microwave and Antenna systems :-)   D’s get 
> degrees.   I’m never going to use this shit.   Take the EIT / PE exam?   Why 
> the hell would I ever work as a consulting engineer.
>  
> Of course my first job is a consulting engineer, and I deal with microwaves 
> and antenna systems every day.
>  
> Ah, to know then what I know now.   Just don’t make me do all this shit over 
> again.
>  
> Mark
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>  
>> Makes you wonder if a wire and an alligator clip could turn the aluminum box 
>> into an antenna.
>>  
>> Yeah, fields & waves was not my best course in college.  And I have a fear 
>> of heights.  So of course I end up running a WISP.  But turning a Faraday 
>> cage into an antenna is probably not my best idea.
>>  
>>  
>> From: AF <[email protected] <>> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 9:07 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber
>>  
>> I like your solution actually.   Should work out well.   Hardest part with 
>> trailers is getting through the aluminum box.   Putting AP’s close will help 
>> a lot.
>>  
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 9:54 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Wow this thread blew up while I was sleeping.
>>> I'm proposing both a wireless and fiber solution.  I'm sure they'll pick 
>>> WiFi because it'll be cheaper, but I wanted to put all the cards on the 
>>> table.
>>> As far as why I'm bothering to propose fiber:
>>> 1) If there's fiber to the power pedestal, and each ped (or every other 
>>> ped) has it's own little router with it's own SSID and key, then there's a 
>>> security benefit vs having everybody in the park be able to sniff traffic 
>>> from each other's devices.
>>> 2) We could track any illegal/bad/weird activity to a specific RV site (or 
>>> at least to the proximity of one).
>>> 3) The changing positions and occupancy of RV sites won't affect anybody's 
>>> WiFi because their WiFi will be right next to them no matter what.  Neither 
>>> will the growth of trees hurt them.
>>> 4) No capacity issue in the park (and the feed TO the park can of course 
>>> always be upgraded).
>>> 5) Infinitely upgrade-able.
>>> 6) We have all the equipment and personnel and we want to use them.  
>>> There's an indefinite amount of work for them expanding and improving our 
>>> own network, but if they do it for the campground we can bill them out.
>>> -Adam
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On 6/11/2020 5:48 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>> Why are you doing fiber?
>>>>  
>>>> We have a 300 unit RV park where everyone is required to stream over the 
>>>> Internet, no satellite dishes are allowed.
>>>>  
>>>> It works absolutely fine and everything is back hauled wirelessly to the 
>>>> sectors that cover several RV campers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Adam Moffett mailto:[email protected] <> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Yeah I'm assuming WiFi would be everyone's first choice, and that's part 
>>>>> of why I'm thinking WiFi from the pedestal.  I just thought it would be 
>>>>> nice to have the option to plug in a cable. 
>>>>> I did find a comms enclosure that bolts onto the back side of the RV 
>>>>> power ped. http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/. 
>>>>>  <http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/>
>>>>> Waiting for them to send me more details, but I think that might give me 
>>>>> a place for the ONT, and incidentally there appear to be two keystone 
>>>>> jacks in it.  My two reasons for suggesting this approach are that each 
>>>>> RV gets their own WiFi instead of sharing it with everybody around them, 
>>>>> and if there was ever a law enforcement issue we could track the usage to 
>>>>> a particular site rather than just "somewhere in the park". 
>>>>>  
>>>>> On 6/11/2020 4:54 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>>> As an "RVer" I will say that we are all set up for WiFi connections and 
>>>>>> doing a hardwire would be something that we _never_ plan for.   Don't 
>>>>>> even carry and ethernet cable... 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 06/11/2020 01:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you run fiber to RV sites, what do you put in at the site? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm imagining I'd end with a WiFi enabled ONT in a box, on a post next 
>>>>>>> to their power and water hookups.  I'd want the campers to be able to 
>>>>>>> plug Ethernet in at the box if they have the wherewithal to do so.  And 
>>>>>>> if they don't then they have their own private WiFi right outside their 
>>>>>>> RV. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ....of course I could get little Hoffman boxes and put this together, 
>>>>>>> but I'm betting someone must have made a product for this already. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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