Q: Does the rule apply to commercial property or only residential property?
A: Nothing in the rule excludes antennas installed on commercial property. The rule applies to property used for commercial purposes in the same way it applies to residential property. Source: https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule -----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:45 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber I see. Well that’s illegal in the parks we manage and security would be over in a flash. I’m aware of continental. Which is interesting since OTARD doesn’t apply to commercial. > On Jun 11, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Deadheading bobtail. Happens all the time. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Again. Why would a semi be parking in the middle of the park? >> >> Sure. It can be in a designated space. No one parks in the roadway to sleep. >> >>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:16 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> I guess you have not been in the sleeper of a nice large semi lately. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes >>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:42 PM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber >>> >>> Why would a semi be parking in the middle of an RV park? >>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm not an RV'er, but I thought it was somewhat common to have a portable >>>> or roof mounted sat TV dish that even automatically aims itself. Like >>>> this: >>>> https://www.amazon.com/Winegard-PL7000R-Playmaker-Portable-Satellit >>>> e/dp/B074CPRJSD >>>> >>>> Supposedly you can add a mobile dish to your home subscription so you >>>> don't have to pay an arm and a leg for a couple months when you hit the >>>> road in summer. We have a farm customer that uses their "mobile" dish at >>>> their scalehouse during harvest. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:17 PM >>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber >>>> >>>> So if a semi wants to park there and they have a nice mobile sat under the >>>> radome, you going to knock on their sleeper and ask if they are watching >>>> TV? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Matt Hoppes >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 4:13 PM >>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RV Park Fiber >>>> >>>> OTARD does not apply to someone else’s property. Normally the satellite >>>> dishes are not mounted on your RV they are mounted on the land belonging >>>> to the camp owner. >>>> >>>> And 0TARD does not apply to commercial environments which a campground is. >>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Robert Andrews >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How can you enforce no satellite dishes. Sounds like a clear violation >>>>> of FCC OTARD... You couldn't even tell if we were using our satellite >>>>> dish it's fully enclosed and not visible. >>>>> >>>>>>> On 06/11/2020 02:48 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>>> Why are you doing fiber? >>>>>> We have a 300 unit RV park where everyone is required to stream >>>>>> over the Internet, no satellite dishes are allowed. >>>>>> It works absolutely fine and everything is back hauled wirelessly >>>>>> to the sectors that cover several RV campers. >>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah I'm assuming WiFi would be everyone's first choice, and >>>>>>> that's part of why I'm thinking WiFi from the pedestal. I just >>>>>>> thought it would be nice to have the option to plug in a cable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did find a comms enclosure that bolts onto the back side of >>>>>>> the RV power ped. http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/. >>>>>>> <http://www.rvparksupplies.com/p/ACCESSBOXPHONECABLE/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waiting for them to send me more details, but I think that might >>>>>>> give me a place for the ONT, and incidentally there appear to be >>>>>>> two keystone jacks in it. My two reasons for suggesting this >>>>>>> approach are that each RV gets their own WiFi instead of sharing >>>>>>> it with everybody around them, and if there was ever a law >>>>>>> enforcement issue we could track the usage to a particular site rather >>>>>>> than just "somewhere in the park". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/11/2020 4:54 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>> As an "RVer" I will say that we are all set up for WiFi connections and >>>>>>>> doing a hardwire would be something that we _never_ plan for. Don't >>>>>>>> even carry and ethernet cable... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 06/11/2020 01:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>>>>>>>>> If you run fiber to RV sites, what do you put in at the site? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm imagining I'd end with a WiFi enabled ONT in a box, on a >>>>>>>>>> post next to their power and water hookups. I'd want the >>>>>>>>>> campers to be able to plug Ethernet in at the box if they have the >>>>>>>>>> wherewithal to do so. >>>>>>>>>> And if they don't then they have their own private WiFi right >>>>>>>>>> outside their RV. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ....of course I could get little Hoffman boxes and put this >>>>>>>>>> together, but I'm betting someone must have made a product for this >>>>>>>>>> already. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
