We always lean towards optics first because it's easy to test. We've seen
packet loss with no errors with a crappy SFP from FS.



On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 8:53 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So for the packet loss with no obvious cause, do I blame the cheap
> optics or the cheap switch?  Sounds like we're thinking switch.
>
> The most recent issue (which prompted these questions) was 1/10th second
> of packet loss every 2 seconds.  It was between two CRS 2xx switches
> with $10 Fiberstore SFP's.  I feel like one end or the other should have
> been accumulating thousands of errors, but nope.  No errors; nothing to
> see here.  And btw Rx power was around -12 on each end vs a sensitivity
> of -23.  OTDR trace showed nothing weird.
>
> On 7/2/2020 11:30 AM, Trey Scarborough wrote:
> > The switch/router should report the error. The SFP is just a blinky
> > light for the most part, until you get into 100g coherent optics. Some
> > things that may not report errors would be interface drops, but would
> > be reported as a link down. I would really like it if mikrotik would
> > implement a hold time/ port flap protection. Also reading more SFP
> > detail would be nice so it would now alarm levels for the RX signal.
> >
> > On 7/1/2020 10:53 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >> n something is clearly wrong, why aren't errors reported? Is it:
> >> 1) Mikrotik interfaces never report errors to begin with?
> >>
> >> 2) My cheapo SFP's don't report an error to the host switch/router?
> >>
> >> 3) An error at the SFP is invisible to the host switch/router?
> >>
> >>
> >> ......and I'm not talking about optical problems because those are
> >> detectable with an OTDR pretty much 100% of the time. Talking
> >> specifically about issues with switches and SFP's.
> >
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