I’m not a fan. But unless it’s law enforcement you need to pay for 
administrative time. 

> On Aug 1, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Supposedly IP Echelon has a reputation for sending bogus claims, or not doing 
> the due diligence required by the DMCA.  Although in some of those cases, 
> they claimed it was a scam impersonating them.
> https://torrentfreak.com/isp-wants-us-marshals-to-help-serve-piracy-tracking-outfit-180528/
>  
>  
> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 2:39 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent
>  
> I was always very cooperative.  Not a fan of IP infringement.  But yeah, I 
> let the customer know they had to fix the problem. 
>  
> From: Darin Steffl
> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 1:32 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent
>  
> Give it up Matt!!
>  
> You know they won't pay so just ignore their emails.
>  
>  
>  
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 1:16 PM Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Exactly. We won’t provide details without a court order. And without payment 
> we aren’t going to research anything. 
> 
> > On Aug 1, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > So do I understand correctly they are sending you DMCA complaints and you
> > are sending them bills for researching the supposedly infringing customer
> > and they don't pay but they send more complaints?
> > 
> > This seems like Tom Hanks having a "conversation" with "Wilson" in the movie
> > Castaway.  Did you actually expect them to pay?
> > 
> > If we receive a notice of claimed infringement, we try to make a judgement
> > whether it is legit or bogus, and either throw it away or contact the
> > customer accordingly.  But we NEVER contact the sender of the notice, we
> > never forward threats or demands for payment, and we don't provide
> > information about customers without a court order.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> > Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 12:17 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [AFMUG] IP Echelon Delinquent
> > 
> > IP Echelon continues to send us requests for information and research even
> > as their account remains delinquent with us.
> > 
> > We have contacted them multiple times requesting payment but they have not
> > responded and continue to send requests for research. 
> > 
> > Does anyone have a good contact at IP Echelon related to billing matters?
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