Govt is highly effective at incentivizing behavior and can be effective at
disincentivizing behavior.


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 4:19 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> I thought the only time Government was competent was when it was involving
> conspiracy?
>
> IRS looses 1 laptop and millions of peoples data is in the wild, "Gov't
> leaks data like a sieve"
>
> 1000's of people in and out of Area51, and not a single picture of the
> aliens?  "Gov't has been covering it up for 60 years"
>
> On 8/5/2020 2:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Conspiracy theories lose credibility when the number of participants
> exceed 5 or 10 people. You're talking about a conspiracy involving 5 or 6
> thousand hospitals in 50 states (plus all the territories), with who knows
> how many people involved at each hospital.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 8/5/2020 10:44 AM, justsumname wrote:
>
> There is plenty of financial and political incentive for the numbers to be
> as awful as they can almost justify them to be.
>
> My governor publishes a report every day.   The number in my county keeps
> going up, never down.   So the same guy who got it early and died, does he
> still count?   How about the ones who got it and 'recovered' ?   What about
> the people who tested only for the antibody?   I guess they count as 'got
> it', too.
>
> Anything goes, no honesty or transparency required.   And the more dead
> people, the better.
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> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 12:05 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> I see young kids in places like stores wearing masks and they seem quite
>> OK with it, like having a backpack or a hat, this is what we do, no big
>> deal go ahead and play or shop or whatever we are here for.  I am reminded
>> of my observation that people who need glasses from a young age tolerate it
>> a lot better than those of us who don’t need glasses until we turn 50.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, there are some photos circulating of high school
>> reopening in states like Georgia that are quite frightening, I hope this is
>> just social media taking things out of context.  I understand at that age
>> the peer pressure to not be uncool, but if this is really going on all over
>> the place, we have an experiment going on and may not like the results.
>> Maybe we will discover that teenagers don’t transmit the virus, but so far,
>> magical thinking hasn’t worked out so good.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF < <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of * <ch...@wbmfg.com>ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:41 AM
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>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
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>>
>> But there should be a E ticket for the special people...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>>
>> *To:* <af@af.afmug.com>af@af.afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> I say treat it like triage. Healthcare workers first, then essential
>> workers, then people in assisted care and prisons.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2020 8:00 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I see these articles debating who should get a vaccine first, some
>> arguing young people should get it because they have more years ahead of
>> them, basically let the old people die.  But if young people keep acting
>> like idiots, maybe they don’t have that many years after all.  If the virus
>> doesn’t get them, some other stupid stunt will.  Plus they will have
>> enjoyed their short lives, with all the partying.
>>
>>
>>
>> Grumble, grumble.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:19 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
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>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> Illinois 7 day positive results average went from 4% positive to 3.9%
>> positive yesterday.  So I guess that's good news.  But reports are a
>> majority of new cases are from college age kids coming back to campuses and
>> partying.
>>
>> On 8/4/2020 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> When I was seeing my Primary doc for a physical, he said that he feels
>> the only numbers worth looking at are % of positive tests, and
>> Deaths/infections.  The total numbers don't mean anything.
>>
>> Here in Illinois, we're sitting at ~4% positive for the last week, but
>> 4.6% positive yesterday, we were at 2.8% positive a month ago.  I think
>> some of the 'bad' states are upwards of 10% positive.
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/2020 10:29 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com>ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Yeahbut it isn’t looking terrific yet.  It has flattened.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:25 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Good news?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the most important chart is deaths per population
>>
>>
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>> Not wanting to jinx this but it looks promising.
>>
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