Corey does read this list.  So he can assume that offer might be on the table?

From: Cassidy B. Larson 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

It might help speed things along if you slip Cory a C-note. lol 


  On Aug 13, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:

  We ordered months in advance.  Just not enough months in advance.  We will be 
up poop creek without ONTs soon.  Even the 803Gs are hard to come by.    

  On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:28 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yeah.... just now firing this up.  We have customers seeing our work crews 
and accosting them for service.  I could say it is a wonderful problem to have 
buy my eye is truly on greenfield.  We are serving some of them along the way.  

    From: Cassidy B. Larson 
    Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:25 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

    Thats why you order months in advance and spread delivery timelines out :)



      On Aug 13, 2020, at 1:23 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:

      BTW, I just heard that Calix cannot get the broadcom chip used in the 
844s.  So October or later for deliveries.  

      From: Carl Peterson 
      Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:12 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

      Yeah, I wouldn't use it outdoors.  Possibly straight out of the back of 
NID on the outside wall into the unit.  We just use it for the fiber wall plate 
to the 844G.   In MDUs we run 3MM RBR bend insensitive pre-terminated on one 
end and splice it in the wall plate.  You can also get it terminated on both 
ends of course.  It can be run pretty much like cat5.  If part of the run is 
outside, get the version with UV protection.  Wall plates are cheap and 
replacing a 1m patch cable is a whole lot easier then replacing a drop to a 
unit if you go straight to the ONT.  We have fibermint build out our wall 
plates with a shutter adapter and a pigtail.  Order ~1K at a time.  Speaking of 
which it is time to drop another order.  Lead times are a PITA due to COVID19 
and the constant changing of tariff rules.  

      On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:02 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

        If the FS is tough enough to run from the NID to the biscuit and 
withstand staples, tight bends and UV then it sounds pretty good.  But I really 
like the little metal bullet end on the pre terminated Miniflex.  Easy to push 
through a wall etc.  

        From: Carl Peterson 
        Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:34 AM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

        FS armored patch is different then clearfield pushable.  FS has a 900um 
loose inside a metal spiral with a PVC jacket.  CFD pushable has a 900um in gel 
inside a thick plastic jacket.  You can't really push the FS with connectors on 
it, or at all really.  The FS is much more flexible and doesn't kink like CFD 
pushable but you can't push it.  I don't like CFD pushable outside of 
microduct.  Too easy to mess up and there are better fibers for the 
application.  



        On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:56 AM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote:

          Well,   I have managed to put a staple through it if that counts :-)  
 If you don’t shoot the staple right through it it works fine - I just had bad 
aim.   And for what it’s worth the cable still worked.   It’s at my house so 
I’m not too worried about it.  Hopefully our install crew uses a little more 
care. 

          It’s relatively stiff but it’s not like the Clearfield or other 
brands of pushable fiber that have a very minimal diameter protected stub at 
the end that you then assemble the SC connector to after pushing it in.   You 
can get the movable part of the SC connector to pop off but you still have the 
full square end of the SC to deal with - it won’t go through most microduct, 
but you can get it through the normal drill size you shove CAT-5 cable though.

          Mark



            On Aug 13, 2020, at 11:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:

            Will this FS stuff take a staple and can you push it through 
microduct?

            From: Mark Radabaugh 
            Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 7:23 PM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

            I fhink you preterminated indoor jumper cost is too high.   These 
https://www.fs.com/c/armored-patch-cables-220 work fine for the inside wiring 
from the outdoor box to the wall plate or direct to CPE if you are not doing a 
inside jack.  They are not UV rated so you have to make sure you don’t leave 
them exposed outdoor.   You can pop the outer SC portion off the jumper if you 
want to pass through a smaller hole. 

            Mark



              On Aug 12, 2020, at 7:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:

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