Yuck to spray foam.   That shit is a bitch to get back out when you need it.

Plugs are available for unused ducts.   Haven’t usually worried about ducts 
with cable in them.   I think I would prefer some type of rubber boot rather 
than foam.

Mark

> On Aug 20, 2020, at 12:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Spray foam. 
>  
> From: Jason McKemie <>
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:46 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit
>  
> What do you use for foam in the ducts?
>  
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:42 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>> Hand holes fill with muddy water.  You should foam them when you are done to 
>> prevent this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is it normal for the duct to be full of mud?  That seems ungood.  I’m also 
>>> assuming the fiber in that duct is carrying traffic and it would be very 
>>> bad to break it and then not be able to replace it.
>>>  
>>> From: AF <[email protected] <>> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 5:56 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit
>>>  
>>> You still need a way to get air in the duct.   Either this: 
>>> https://www.gmptools.com/innerduct-pressurization-test-kit/ 
>>> <https://www.gmptools.com/innerduct-pressurization-test-kit/>  or this 
>>> https://www.gmptools.com/line-blowing/ 
>>> <https://www.gmptools.com/line-blowing/> to attach to the compressor.   
>>> Neither tool is very expensive (relative to the stupid price of most things 
>>> fiber)
>>>  
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Something like this:  
>>>> https://www.gmptools.com/cable-overblowing-junction-box/ 
>>>> <https://www.gmptools.com/cable-overblowing-junction-box/>
>>>>  
>>>> Put the real cable in the one side and block the other port or use it for 
>>>> water.  Hum…  water going backwards through the compressor isn’t a great 
>>>> idea.  And pushing air back the water supply isn’t great.   OK, fill it 
>>>> with water and block the other port.   Add air and wait.  Once you have 
>>>> half decent airflow change to water.
>>>>  
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 6:06 PM, [email protected] <> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> You might get away with sealing it up really good where the fiber exits 
>>>>> and then making a hole in the side of the duct small enough for the tip 
>>>>> of an air blower.  Not sure how much air you will get this way but easy 
>>>>> to try. Use mastic and then tape to seal it.  You might be able to couple 
>>>>> a pressure washer to it too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 4:00 PM
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a clamp thing that clamps over the duct and cable and seals it all
>>>>> up.  It has an air port coming in from the side.  And I use a 375 CFM 150
>>>>> psi compressor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am guessing you could slip a copper tube down the duct and tape the crap
>>>>> out of everything with black vinyl tape.  Just use as much air as you can
>>>>> get.  Be sure to inject as much water as you can inject first.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:32 PM
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do you seal it up with the existing fiber in there to be able to
>>>>> blow it?  How much PSI do you use?  Will a portable air compressor be
>>>>> enough?  Other end of the conduit is in a building, so I can only blow
>>>>> the mud 1 way :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/19/2020 4:30 PM, [email protected] <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Use compressed air to blow water through it.  Once you get it flushed 
>>>>>> your fish tape might go.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:19 PM
>>>>>> To: Animal Farm
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anybody have secrets for locating mud filled conduit?  Trying to locate
>>>>>> a 1" poly with a non-toneable fiber installed in it. No trace wire
>>>>>> installed. Conduit is full of Mud, and at the bottom of a handhole that
>>>>>> is also filled with Mud.  Conduit goes from handhole under a parking
>>>>>> lot, so digging to find it isn't an option either. We were not involved
>>>>>> in the installation of this conduit, but it is now our problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We got a flat steel fish tape pushed in just far enough to finish the
>>>>>> current locate request, but it's not going any farther.  At some point
>>>>>> in the future I'm probably going to get a locate request further down
>>>>>> the conduit path.  What super-secret method do you guys that live and
>>>>>> breath underground work have for dealing with this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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