The last one we looked at purchasing, the owner wanted "much more than 1x
revenue".   We knew from experience with the gear they were using, and the
way that they had it all put together that it was going to require
replacing every bit of gear in the network and in some cases fixing towers
themselves.   We walked away from that one.   Would have been happy to have
their customer base, but it wasn't worth what the owner was demanding.

On the other hand, if one walked into a network that was using similar
gear, was designed well, and so on, paying a premium would have been worth
it.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know about your business, but mine is run so nicely that if
> someone bought it, you wouldn't have to do shit all other than billing and
> normal troubleshooting. That's why anyone who does a generalized "ISP is
> worth x* dollars" doesn't make any sense. It's so dependant on the business
> and the area.
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I heard an “expert” once on a radio show advising small business owners
>> how to prep their business for sale.  The advice was to cut costs to
>> inflate EBITDA because that’s what the sale price would be based on.  So if
>> the seller followed that advice, network upgrades and maintenance would
>> have been neglected.  On the other hand, if you planned to cut redundant
>> staff, some of that might have already been done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *cjwstudios
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2020 6:30 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>>
>>
>>
>> 1x annual revenue and hope the customers stay on
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 5:43 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> This is the issue I’ve always had when I’ve looked at buying an ISP. It
>> always seems like a lot more money I would have to put out to buy then I
>> could just build and take the customers if something is wrong with the
>> current network.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 21, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On 8/20/20 8:13 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> >> I think you either buy or sell, isp isnt really a flip thing
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > There is/was someone in my part of the country buying up ISPs and
>> trying to package them all together as a flip. My ISP customers tell me
>> it's far easier to get the flipper's customers to cancel and switch than
>> buy their company.
>>
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