If it works for them I don't care what people use on the network. If they
called in for help we would tell them to unplug the circle first, just like
someone troubleshooting over wireless.

We have enough control and insight into the home network with our own
routers and extenders that I don't mind if people want to disable arp
spoofing on the router to use a circle.

https://support.meetcircle.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026363452-CALIX-GIGACENTER-844G-844E-and-Circle



On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:45 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> So you’re OK with a device that essentially does a man-in-the-middle
> attack on your managed router, using ARP spoofing to pretend to be the
> router, rerouting traffic multiple times across the WiFi network?  I’m
> trending toward the position that I won’t troubleshoot LAN issues or manage
> the router if the customer wants to do that.  And that if they really like
> the Circle parental controls, they should buy one of the Netgear routers
> that has Circle built in to the router.  No hacker tricks needed.
>
>
>
> If customers want a “managed router” from us, meaning we are responsible
> for all their LAN and WiFi issues, I’m getting tired of them trying to add
> spoofing devices, range extenders, etc. to the network.  Hey Mr. Customer,
> if you want to manage your network, you’re welcome to, but it’s one or the
> other – ISP managed or customer managed.  Make up your mind.  Or call Geek
> Squad.
>
>
>
> https://www.netgear.com/landings/circle/
>
>
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/can-disneys-circle-really-deliver-a-porn-free-internet/
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:39 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device
>
>
>
> We have customers using Circle with a Calix 844e and 804 mesh and it works
> fine.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:24 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
> I’ve got one connected at home with an Amplifi mesh.  I could see people
> blaming their ISP for stuff not working if they set the default settings to
> restrict a lot of stuff.  I set ours to block facebook and some other stuff
> for anybody who connects to the wifi but isn’t assigned to a profile.  I
> haven’t had any problems with it causing any signal issues though.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 3:59 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device
>
>
>
> Hmmmm, does that work seamlessly, or could it cause problems people blame
> on their Internet?  And would it play nice with a range extender or mesh
> system?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 1:07 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device
>
>
>
> ARP spoofing. It's not inline at all. If possible, it should be hardwired
> to the router instead of wifi for best performance.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 12:51 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> routerlimits had something similar, never got to investigate much before
> bark bought them
>
> i figured it either did dns or spoofing of something
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:43 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Customer has a Circle device on their WiFi network which apparently is a
> parental control device.
>
>
>
> How does this work if it’s just another device on the WiFi?  It seems like
> it would have to either be inline with the path to the Internet, or somehow
> take over DNS.  Or is it doing something intrusive on the WiFi?
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