It has not been a problem the times I have done it - but being a government 
agency they have it pretty well spelled out that if you request the audit they 
will only go back on the existing year at the true-up.   Ohio bases your 
premiums on the prior years wages and you are required to ’true-up’ at the end 
of the year to cover whatever increase/decrease in payroll occurred during the 
year.

Ohio doesn’t have a state OSHA but delegates that responsibility to workers 
comp.   They specifically state that if you ask for a ’safety review’ they will 
not cite you for anything they find.   If you don’t implement the findings that 
they make they can come after you in a later visit though.    I personally have 
not seen them try to trap anyone or act in bad faith.

Mark

> On Sep 16, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Anyone ever meet a stick instead of a carrot when asking the entity on the 
> other side (insurance, taxes, other regulatory matters, etc.) for a 
> compliance check? I'd hate to ask for a compliance audit, then be penalized 
> when they find something wrong. I assume that when you ask for an audit that 
> they just allow you to correct it and move forward.
> 
> However, when you assume...
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:30:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Workers Comp
> 
> Ohio is a captive insurance state for workers comp - meaning your only choice 
> for workers comp is the state run program.
> 
> We use:
> 
> 8742 for Sales
> 8901 for office workers
> 9516 for installers
> 7600 for tower workers
> 
> We requested from workers comp that they do a classification audit.   A 
> workers comp inspector did extensive interviews and visited with the 
> installers.   The inspector then assigned the above codes and provided his 
> written documentation of how and why he assigned those.   
> 
> Ask your insurance company to do a classification audit.  You can quit 
> guessing, and you have something in writing to point to if the company ever 
> disputes a claim over classification.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> > On Sep 16, 2020, at 9:15 AM, David Coudron <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > 
> > There was some discussion at first, but in the end the found a work code to 
> > put our guys under they were comfortable with.   I believe it is the same 
> > code as a satellite TV installer would be under.   That is a pretty good 
> > fit for our normal customer installation work.   The very limited amount of 
> > tower work that we do didn't tip the scales.   And since we don't build 
> > towers or erect the structures, being on a tower a few times a year didn't 
> > amount to enough to worry them.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:07 AM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>; David Coudron <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Workers Comp
> > 
> > How are you using ADP?  ADP doesn't peer with anyone who does "high-risk" 
> > workers comp insurance to cover telecommunications.
> > 
> > On 9/16/20 7:45 AM, David Coudron wrote:
> >> We are using ADP for our payroll and get workers comp from them.  It is 
> >> nice because they take premiums from every payroll and we don't have to 
> >> mess around with estimating premiums and making up the difference when 
> >> they do audits.   We still get the audits, but what we have been paying is 
> >> our liability, so no big surprises.   They are pretty quick to get out 
> >> COIs as well, which is nice when we get requests for them.   They seem to 
> >> be about the same price as everyone else, but you need to use them for 
> >> payroll, which we were doing anyway.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> David Coudron
> >> 
> >> David Coudron
> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  |  
> >> Mobile: 612-991-7474
> >> 
> >> Advantenon, Inc.
> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane 
> >> N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 
> >> 55447  |  www.advantenon.com <http://www.advantenon.com/>  |  Phone: 
> >> 800-704-4720  |  Local: 
> >> 612-454-1545
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On 
> >> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:31 PM
> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Workers Comp
> >> 
> >> Who do you all have your workers comp insurance with?  Unitel is not the 
> >> insurance company, they are just a broker.
> >> 
> >> Who is your underlying carrier?
> >> 
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