I have actually done this before.  No skin off their nose.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:17 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

Interesting thought.



On 10/13/2020 4:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:

  If I was building it, I would try to convince them to let me add a duct to 
two everywhere that I would own.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:00 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models

  Sadly we're literally not allowed to own it.  It's a USDA "ReConnect" grant.  
The grant awardee is the muni.  USDA will have a hand on the wheel and their 
contract will literally not allow anyone but the awardee to own the network.

  We could potentially buy the network afterwards with USDA approval, but I'm 
told it's an uphill battle to get approved.  


  It might be possible to structure the agreement so the muni owns it on paper 
and we have full control in reality.  But whatever agreement we make has to be 
approved by the USDA.  I might have to get them on the horn and see what they'd 
prefer.





  On 10/13/2020 3:05 PM, Steven Kenney wrote:

    It'll start out like most marriages.  That should be all you need to know.  
I'd keep an eye on the divorce rates :)  In my case I have the perfect wife.. 
but dealing with municipalities and government you can expect your wife to be a 
"Karen".  

    I'd ensure you own the fiber and have access to work on the fiber.  But 
guarantee them X amount of bandwidth over X period of time, you'll provide the 
labor and monitoring for all their connections.  Get it in front of a lawyer.  
If shit goes downhill you both will be covered.  Just make sure any future 
projects with them won't get squashed.  

           
                    STEVEN KENNEY 

          DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY 
          A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON 

          E: [email protected] | P: 519-737-9283

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    From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:[email protected]
    To: "af" mailto:[email protected]
    Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:36:13 PM
    Subject: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models


    Anybody have direct experience with public-private partnerships as far 
    as what works and what doesn't?

    I'm discussing with a county gov that has funding to build a network, 
    and they're open to almost anything.  The nature of their funding 
    requires that they own the network.  The nature of their knowledge level 
    is that they have no idea how to be the network owner.  So essentially 
    it has to be a public-private partnership of some type.

    My first thought was we could lease fiber miles from them and own the 
    electronics.  They keep the lease payments in a fund which they use to 
    pay for repairs.  We could do repairs and send them bills based on an 
    agreed upon fee schedule.

    Naturally I'd prefer exclusive access and I'm sure they'd prefer open 
    access.  I think my biggest argument in favor of exclusive access is 
    when you have a problem there's only one throat to choke.


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