We just did our first fiber build. We were going into an area we already had hundreds of customers, planned it all out went to the township to get the permit. Then we find out Cogeco who was sitting on that project for 5+ years was planning on doing it too. They caught wind of us being ready to do it . They had no plans to do it anytime soon but as soon as we were ready to dig, they were. (go figure) So we ended up doing a dual build and split the costs of the install. It actually saved us a lot of money and we pretty much retained all of our customers in the process.
[ https://www.wavedirect.net/ | ] [ https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed ] [ https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/ ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/ ] [ https://twitter.com/wavedirect1 ] [ https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect ] STEVEN KENNEY DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: [email protected] | P: 519-737-9283 W: www.wavedirect.net From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> To: "af" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 6:46:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models They probably could. On 10/13/2020 5:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Can the county sell IRUs as opposed to the underlying asset? ----- Mike Hammett [ http://www.ics-il.com/ | Intelligent Computing Solutions ] [ https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL ] [ https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions ] [ https://twitter.com/ICSIL ] [ http://www.midwest-ix.com/ | Midwest Internet Exchange ] [ https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange ] [ https://twitter.com/mdwestix ] [ http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ | The Brothers WISP ] [ https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp ] [ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg | ] From: "Adam Moffett" [ mailto:[email protected] | <[email protected]> ] To: [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:00:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models Sadly we're literally not allowed to own it. It's a USDA "ReConnect" grant. The grant awardee is the muni. USDA will have a hand on the wheel and their contract will literally not allow anyone but the awardee to own the network. We could potentially buy the network afterwards with USDA approval, but I'm told it's an uphill battle to get approved. It might be possible to structure the agreement so the muni owns it on paper and we have full control in reality. But whatever agreement we make has to be approved by the USDA. I might have to get them on the horn and see what they'd prefer. On 10/13/2020 3:05 PM, Steven Kenney wrote: BQ_BEGIN It'll start out like most marriages. That should be all you need to know. I'd keep an eye on the divorce rates :) In my case I have the perfect wife.. but dealing with municipalities and government you can expect your wife to be a "Karen". I'd ensure you own the fiber and have access to work on the fiber. But guarantee them X amount of bandwidth over X period of time, you'll provide the labor and monitoring for all their connections. Get it in front of a lawyer. If shit goes downhill you both will be covered. Just make sure any future projects with them won't get squashed. [ https://www.wavedirect.net/ | ] [ https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed ] [ https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/ ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/ ] [ https://twitter.com/wavedirect1 ] [ https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect ] STEVEN KENNEY DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] | P: 519-737-9283 W: [ http://www.wavedirect.net/ | www.wavedirect.net ] From: "Adam Moffett" [ mailto:[email protected] | <[email protected]> ] To: "af" [ mailto:[email protected] | <[email protected]> ] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:36:13 PM Subject: [AFMUG] public-private fiber models Anybody have direct experience with public-private partnerships as far as what works and what doesn't? I'm discussing with a county gov that has funding to build a network, and they're open to almost anything. The nature of their funding requires that they own the network. The nature of their knowledge level is that they have no idea how to be the network owner. So essentially it has to be a public-private partnership of some type. My first thought was we could lease fiber miles from them and own the electronics. They keep the lease payments in a fund which they use to pay for repairs. We could do repairs and send them bills based on an agreed upon fee schedule. Naturally I'd prefer exclusive access and I'm sure they'd prefer open access. I think my biggest argument in favor of exclusive access is when you have a problem there's only one throat to choke. -- AF mailing list [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] -- AF mailing list [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] BQ_END -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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