Mine changes in the garage. Showers when she gets in, bag of clothes gets
rotated into laundry once a week.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 4:46 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Stay safe guys.  We have my cousins husband die from it two weeks ago...33
> years old  .
> My wife wears N95 masks, gloves, face shields , goggles, full ppe garb at
> work everyday....she changes out in our back porch, including shoes...we
> spray them with Lysol...showers as soon as she comes inside home..
> She has diabetes...
> I am about to hit 65 in November...taking no chances
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 3:37 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We spent the last week at Lake Tahoe. Almost everywhere we went mask
>> wearing was near 100%, until Friday, we went to a restaurant for lunch.
>> They had set up booths outdoors with plexiglass dividers and plenty of
>> distance. all the employees wore masks; they even provided a virtual menu
>> via a QR Code that was on a card on the table (so far so good).
>>
>> When it came time to leave, my partner had to visit the restroom. She had
>> to walk past the bar, where she said they were crowded,  shoulder to
>> shoulder, and zero masks. As Tony Fauci commented "Nothing good is going to
>> come from that."
>>
>> I'm a 70-year-old guy, and while I think I'm in pretty good shape, I do
>> not have ready access to any monoclonal antibodies, nor do I expect to in
>> the next 6 months.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 10/26/2020 2:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> We are on a curfew watch and stay at home order.... fucking selfish
>> people out at bars and restaurants, home parties...
>> My son was in New Zealand for three months... they had their shit
>> together.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 1:21 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hold on. Reading your email I am getting conflicting information. You
>>> said that this seems like it’s a joke but then also that you’ve moved
>>> everyone who can remote.
>>>
>>> I disagree we have hospitals that are being overwhelmed right now look
>>> at El Paso. This is not going away after the election.
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Its almost like nobody listened to the science, they clearly said that
>>> the natural progression of any novel virus is 3 annual seasons, with this
>>> one in particular being predominately in fall. this is season 2. We have
>>> treatments now that are effective, we quit killing people with ventilators
>>> the way were were in the beginning, healthcare isnt overwhelmed and theres
>>> no shortage of PPE. We only have 8 days until reporting on this changes to
>>> be less terrifying.
>>>
>>> Healthy people are being exposed, beating it, and innoculated, 3 months
>>> permanent, no one knows if this is different thatn 99 percent of other
>>> viruses. but of the well over 30 million people who were verified positive
>>> via testing and have since recovered, less than 20 globally have been
>>> reinfected, so odds are the vast majority are immune.
>>>
>>> Knowing what we know now, we have permanently moved all positions that
>>> can be remote to remote. techs dont go any further than the garage if they
>>> dont have to. Its techs choice to mask up and glove up, and as long as they
>>> choose to mask up and glove up, it will continue to be there choice. This
>>> is only applicable to interiors, theyre not required to mask outside, thats
>>> simply ignorant to require and its not "following the science" . ut the
>>> tech can choose to do that if they want. hell, if they want to wear a
>>> condom all day, its none of our concern.
>>>
>>> Our state positivity numbers are a joke, they simply base it on the
>>> percentage of total tests that are positive, its gotten colder, so people
>>> arent getting tested on a whim and we are back to primarily people with
>>> risk factors getting tested, the positivity rate went up as would be
>>> expected, but not as high as anticipated.
>>>
>>> If legitimate numbers start going up like hospitalizations (luckily I
>>> have ins in healthcare so i dont have to rely on media reports and
>>> politically charged public health departments, i am privy to internal
>>> census reports in healthcare) then we will look toward lower contact
>>> solutions, and no contact if our coverage area sees a legitimate surge.
>>>
>>> We dont do stupid stuff, like my contractor who was infected, we
>>> cancelled him for his quarantine period. We dont have in person company
>>> meetings. When we are together on project work we dont ride in the same
>>> vehicle, we just dont take any unnecessary risk, but we also dont let risk
>>> avoidance unnecessarily impact operations.
>>>
>>> I quit worrying about exposures with the wife working in a hospital, we
>>> are exposed constantly. (the low incidence of healthcare transmission is an
>>> oddity that after the politics of this thing are over I hope they do some
>>> deep diving into, its either going to boil down to we still dont actually
>>> know how its primarily transmitting or healthcare has such a high incidence
>>> of low viral load exposures that theyr innoculated without actually
>>> catching it, similar to how some allergies can be beaten through very low
>>> dose exposures to the allergen, will be interesting research when the
>>> politics of it are over)
>>>
>>> Every single "look at this country, look at that country" has turned out
>>> to be wrong on both sides of the argument, even WHO says lockdowns are the
>>> wrong solution now.
>>>
>>> Im still waiting for the fed money that went out to put a bunch of
>>> people in prison, even in this industry there will probably be some prison
>>> sentences handed out, the money came with requirements, it wasnt just free
>>> cash to grow a company.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can tell you there is something going around thats causing chest
>>> xrays to look exactly like covid damage, but no testing method is
>>> identifying the presence of covid or history of its presence, thats
>>> concerning, keep that in mind when relaxing policies. Its flu season, and
>>> given the disruption of interaction, this years flu vaccine is not going to
>>> very effective, its worth keeping covid policies in place regardless to not
>>> have staff out with a wild flu.
>>>
>>> And remember, the media frenzy is only just beginning its 8 days of
>>> hell,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:40 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are so bad we were featured on ABC News.... people just want to
>>>> fucking party...
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 1:25 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Numbers here in Illinois are bad again today, all we can say is “at
>>>>> least we’re not Wisconsin”.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I no longer roll my eyes at my daughter choosing to live in Maine,
>>>>> where “social distancing” was already the norm.  (bike photo was actually
>>>>> from a ride a month ago up to the Quebec border)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:17 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISPs & Covid at 8 months and counting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday our techs had to stop wiring up panel and stuff because
>>>>> two electricians would wear masks...I wasn't there , I would have made 
>>>>> them
>>>>> step outside ...our boss complained to water utilities because we are on a
>>>>> schedule with several people.
>>>>>
>>>>> The control room is small.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 10:19 AM Matt Hoppes <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We are doing normal installs for now. Watching our local county info
>>>>> in internal tracking systems I developed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So far we’re staying fairly isolated. If things severely spike this
>>>>> winter we will shut down installs again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point we are not masking nor requiring customers to wear masks
>>>>> - but we do ask customers to stay 10feet away from techs. This point will
>>>>> be driven home even more as we go into the winter months.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 24, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> So 8 months in, numbers are getting worse not better, and despite what
>>>>> anybody says the end is not just around the corner.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember at the beginning some WISPs were not sending techs inside
>>>>> customer homes, maybe pushing a cable through the wall and having the
>>>>> customer plug in the POE and router.  Is anybody still declining to do
>>>>> inside work?  Installs, repairs?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, what about the FCC requested “pledge” not to disconnect
>>>>> customers for nonpayment during the pandemic.  How many are still doing
>>>>> that, and assuming things won’t be back to “normal” until well into 2021 
>>>>> or
>>>>> even 2022, how long do you plan to continue?  Are you taking any 
>>>>> additional
>>>>> steps, like downgrading their speed or declining to do upgrades, or
>>>>> requiring proof of hardship?  I know this wasn’t mandatory, but if we did
>>>>> it voluntarily, should there be a time limit?  And if at that point they
>>>>> are 6-12 months behind, do we write that off rather than expecting they
>>>>> will catch up?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s also interesting I see on cable company forums issues about mask
>>>>> refusal, both by techs and customers, and even of customers who have Covid
>>>>> but still want their Internet fixed.  I hesitate to bring this up because
>>>>> it has become a political or “freedom” issue in a way that seatbelts or
>>>>> smoking or wearing a yellow vest at a grain elevator or even picking up
>>>>> after your dog isn’t, and I’m tired of being caught in the middle.  But
>>>>> take the extreme case of a customer who recently tested positive or the
>>>>> tech gets there and strongly suspects someone in the house is contagious,
>>>>> is this really happening, and what is your response?  At the beginning I
>>>>> would ask when setting up every appointment, has anyone in the house 
>>>>> tested
>>>>> positive, but I’ve come to believe that’s pointless.
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