The older I get, the more shades of gray I see.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:47 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

There is (currently) a segment of the population that wants things to be clear 
cut. Up-down, left-right, north-south, male-female.

I think (I'm spitballing here, so don't get bent out of shape) that that 
segment gets their knickers in a twist when something (anything) doesn't fall 
into clean lines one way or the other. As I've gotten older, I have learned 
that almost no topic falls into the either-or category. 


The whole LGBTQ (can we pick one letter please? We will run out of alphabet.) 
is a great example. The fact is that people have never been just two sexes. 
There are, in fact, a whole range of expressions of sex that are too numerous 
to count. Some people can qualify as both, for example.

At any rate, when people start shouting, my inclination is to cross over to the 
other side of the street.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 11/13/2020 9:47 AM, Robert wrote:

  Where the frick do people start throwing Communism around in regards to the 
US.   Sorry but this weird paranoid outlook is just getting to me.   Growing up 
in the 50's and 60's we knew what communism is/was and the US has never ever 
_ever_ been close to supporting communism.   We have been closer to having 
islamic fundamentalism than communism.   Radicals exist on BOTH sides of the 
divide.   Anyone out and the edges of the bell curve is a "Radical".   And 
there are plenty on both sides to go around.   One side tends to have more guns 
than the other.   Socialism is the idea that society pulls together when it's 
good for everyone, and we have plenty of that.   Fire departments, water 
departments, Social Security where the companies have to contribute 1/2 of the 
payment. (not applicable to self-employed ).   Medicare, Medicaid, these are 
all examples of a society that cares for the less fortunate and decides that we 
care about our fellow individuals.  When, basically, the whole rest of the 
world says that these are good things and that they should do even more, why 
don't we and both sides of the isle decide that this would be good for us too?  
 Because the rich are running the show and taxes on the wealthy should be less 
than taxes on the poor.   And that they can keep shoving propaganda down our 
throats that make us feel like that is the way it should be.   OMG if you 
aren't one of the 1% you are just getting screwed in so many ways.   If you 
aren't sitting on a mountain of PPE on your yacht in the warmer waters of the 
world getting richer from your stock investments you are just bending over 
wanting more.  The last tax changes had so many screw-you-later clauses in it 
for those making less than $5MM/year it was laughable.  Yeah there were a 
couple of things to make it so that you didn't notice your pain for a year or 
two, but it's all there hidden in a 5" stack of FU...

  As far as State and Federal laws being followed.  EVERY DARN ONE of the 
states election boards is screaming that they are doing to the best it's ever 
been done.     Propping up people who say they cheated and then recant doesn't 
look good to anyone.   Chasing down military families that are voting the way 
they have been told to for 50 years looks worse.  Saying that the democrats 
cheated on the Presidential election but couldn't on the Senate, yeah that 
sounds like a good plan..

  Oh btw what you wrote as "
  Anyone here know what 'communism' looks like before it fully shows up?   NOT 
the Trump side ...
  "
  Says that the tRump side doesn't know what communism looks like before it 
shows up.  Which I agree with.  tRump supporters seem to be missing all the 
clues of a leadership running around with their hair on fire...

  Robert <-   Because Lent seems to be seriously broken today...




  On 11/13/20 9:17 AM, justsumname wrote:

    Insisting that State and Federal laws be followed in the election is NOT 
'undermining' the country.   Just the opposite. 
    Firing people who are sympathetic to the radicals is NOT 'undermining' the 
country.   Just the opposite.

    Polar-opposite worlds.   I just don't get it.   Anyone here know what 
'communism' looks like before it fully shows up?   NOT the Trump side ...


    Ya know... it was BIDEN in the first debate who said he would accept the 
election after all states were certified......

    If Biden wins -- legally and properly -- then so be it.   Everyone should 
desire transparency and legality, 100% of the way.   Especially nowadays.

    --


    On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 11:26 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      Morons can say what they will, because that's what they do, like trained 
monkeys. "Orange man bad", good little trainee. 
      I can tell you this, they gave my dad his first dose of remdesivere 
tonite, you can rest assured, podunk Illinois wouldnt be giving podunk 78 year 
old man a medication like that as a first line med if the scamdemic hadn't been 
handled like a boss. See pandemic is pandemic, there is no such thing as 
"handling it right" l anybody who says there is is a part of the above 
mentioned group of morons.

      50 50 if the old man comes home. But my orange "buffoon" opened a door 
that got his odds up from the original 80 percent coffin rate.

      That's what I laugh at "orange man bad" idiots that spout their 
hypocrisy, bigotry and generally retarded tripe.

      Rotflmao, however some more cliches... the change my mind

      On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 8:27 PM Chuck Macenski <[email protected]> wrote:

        If Trump were trying to undermine the United States, what would he be 
doing differently? 


        On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:14 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

          Having the DOJ chase down military people who vote out of state for 
years because of normal military transfers ( 3K so far in NV ) which has been 
the normal state of affairs for over 70 years and characterize that as voter 
fraud is going a little bit too far in my book.  I still am hoping that he is 
going after that more about raising money than actually thinking he can corrupt 
the belief in the voting system.



          On 11/11/20 7:38 AM, [email protected] wrote:

            I don’t agree at all.  Trump got elected because more than half the 
country really really really disliked Hillary.

            Really really really disliked Hillary.

            I don’t know of anyone that voted for Trump because they liked him. 
 Everyone I know thought he was an ass hat from the get go.  

            Second, you all have seen, first hand, for 4 years how little a 
president can actually do to harm a country.  Not much.  He didn’t start any 
wars so that is about the most damaging thing he can do.  He didn’t act on the 
virus properly but lots of countries fall into the same category.  He 
embarrassed us on the world stage.  That is about it.  Congress can affect us.  
Presidents not so much.  

            We have always had nationalists here.  It is part of the culture.  
Some call it patriotism. I don’t think it is bad.  I am not a globalist.  I 
support our country and our national interests above other nations.  Part of 
rooting for the home team.  Being a patriot is a far stretch from dictatorship. 
 

            From: Jaime Solorza 
            Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

            The scariest part is how many actually voted for an inept 
nationalist xenophobic clown ...it portends of bad things ahead. Study history 
and you will see how this nationalism fervor led to Nazi growth in Europe... 
            The proof is overwhelming...
            Prove me wrong.


            On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 9:41 PM Steve Jones 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              I cant take credit on that one 

              Heres some crazy stuff, I'm pretty sure offering up campaign 
funds for anything other than a campaign is illegal. 
              I told you guys, this is gonna get hilarious. By the time it's 
all said and done, theyll find 100 percent evidence biden cheated and there 
will be no republicans left not in prison for the RNC to put in the big seat. 
              
https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-offers-dollar1-million-in-campaign-funds-for-voter-fraud-evidence

              Was reading another article from one of the mainstreams about 
what happens if there is no certification and the congress has to vote in a new 
potus, apparently it's not limited to the two candidates, it's got to do with 
aggregate votes and would potentially leave bernie sanders in a position to be 
president. Its was MSM and they're full of shit all the time but it sounded 
good. Can you imagine that, the dnc fucked this guy over twice in a concerted 
effort, particularly in 2016 when he had a real good chance of beating the 
republican., and then he pulls that feat off. I'd love it. I hate his policies, 
and hed have zero chance of implementing 95 percent of them, but I'd pay to 
watch that happen.

              On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 9:37 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                I might have to write that one down.

                On 11/10/2020 10:32 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
                > Hard times breed strong men, string men breed good times, 
good times 
                > breed weak men, weak men breed hard times.

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