Actually I meant a totally new design for the high efficiency market.  100% 
ground up new design.

 

I don’t know that much about commercial aircraft, but I don’t think the 777 was 
a rehash of anything, it was a new design, and well received.

 

But on the other hand, the military is really good at putting bandaids on old 
planes.  Good lord, look at the B52.  I wish the SR71 Blackbird was still 
flying.  Yeah, strap some more efficient engines on that.

 

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid is over

 

Yeah. I looked at what they had to do to the 737 to get the more efficient 
engines strapped on. The big issue was (at least) that the larger diameter 
required that they be forward-mounted further in order to get them to clear the 
ground. Might have been simpler to re-design the landing gear to provide more 
ground clearance, but what do I know?

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/18/2020 11:58 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Can you imagine if Boeing had instead designed a totally new plane, which was 
just getting certified now, instead of sticking band aids on an aging design to 
meet competition from Airbus?  That’s what Boeing used to do.  They lost their 
way, and in the process, forgot how to design and build a quality product.

 

There’s no way they could have anticipated a pandemic when they took the quick 
route with the Max, and it doubles their pain that they would have had time to 
bring out a new, better design for that market, and the pilots are going to 
have to be retrained anyway.  But as a former Boeing shareholder, I think it 
was still a bad decision from a company that forgot why it existed.

 

It’s also sad to see the 747 stop flying.  It was designed for a different era 
with different economics, but it was still a great plane.  I always tried to 
book a 747 when I was flying overseas, and it also seemed to be the pinnacle of 
every pilot’s career to captain a 747.  Hey, remember when a commercial airline 
pilot was a well paid highly respected job, rather than glorified bus driver?  
When I was a kid, saying your dad was a pilot was like saying he was a doctor 
or lawyer.

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid is over

 

I always thought that when the 737 Max comes back the first year is exactly 
when you want on that plane.

 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:25 PM Robert Andrews <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Could this be the perfect finish for 2020?

On 11/18/2020 11:13 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> may I please be excused from flying on a 737 max for a year or two?
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 11/18/2020 11:09 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936080917/faa-gives-boeing-ok-to-resume-737-max-passenger-service
>>
>>
> 
> 

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