I'm currently visiting the Philippines and in the city I'm in (thankfully
far away from manila) you are not allowed outside unless you wear a mask
with a plastic face shield over the mask

the city I'm in has 60 cases and recovering and the city is fully open

wearing a mask works but only if everyone is wearing it

even if its only you wearing the mask you are at least reducing the amount
of the virus going into your system



On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 4:44 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Don’t be too relaxed with it. I have a friend who just collapsed in church
> on Sunday from Covid.
>
> Just singing along and his heart stopped. Perfectly healthy, outside
> active guy.
>
> They gave him CPR and last I knew he’s still alive in the hospital.
>
> He was a staunch anti masker.
>
> This is a very serious disease and needs to be treated as such.
>
> > On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:54 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > What a let down this was. Turns out tracing is a joke. First off, they
> dont even make contact with the positive test for 3 to 5 days even though
> the money was for within 24 hours. So it essentially pointless as far as
> stopping the spread.
> > They dont ask for much detail, so thes "x infections traced back to Y
> event" are pretty much fictitious. I thought it was maybe local to us, nope
> pretty much the same way across the board.
> > We had 8 sick, three positive tests, and only one was actually traced. 6
> the seven of us were contacts, the two other positives werent marked
> different.
> > We are almost a week past the quarantine/isolation and still getting the
> texts.
> >
> > The point is, yet again in this, the feds provided a massive amount of
> money and guidance, actually bipartisan, and the states fucked it up. I'm
> in illinois, so I'm guessing out of every tracing dollar 25 cents when in
> our fat emperor, erm governors pocket, and another 25 cents went in speaker
> Madigan criminal defense fund. 50 cents went to the tracers, but they
> probably have to kick 30 percent back in taxes.
> >
> > My kids are remote so it's not relevant, but they havent recieved the
> dept public health release yet, so I figure the boy wont be able to do his
> drive time friday for drivers ed.
> >
> > What a joke.
> >
> > Luckily this isnt the death plague they told us it was. Takes a lot to
> die of it now and our state numbers are going back down now that the
> election celebration infections are subsiding.
> >
> > Had the states done what they were supposed to, infected people would
> have known 3 to 4 days earlier, and the percent that would quarantine would
> have.
> > This is our 3rd verified exposure, first actual contact tracing, the
> other two I know for a fact listed us as contacts.
> >
> > When this is over and the FOIAs start, I'm hoping a lot of state and
> dept of health officials spend a ton of time in prison. I'm betting there
> are a ton of phones that were "lost" or smashed with hammers when the
> investigations start after. Theres a ruthless watchdog group I had to deal
> with once, actually forced a multi county health department to split, only
> got one person for embezzlement though. But they know the FOIA game well
> enough that the health department had to have constant deliveries of
> pallets of paper. There were a lot of "early retirements"
> >
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