The whole array looks to be one PCB ~~ 20" in diameter. A lot of silicon parts, but there appears to also be a lot of repeat parts. How many patches? Hundreds?


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On 11/29/2020 12:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
This actually excites me for our industry. Everybody is all up in arms that theyll take our customers. Someone is always trying to take our customers.
What excites me is the tracking capability. Autoalignment is expensive tech, out of our price range. But with starlink ultimately going to have to scale production to cost, I see technology leases happening and the price coming way down, low enough to be viable for our market, at least our higher end gear.
I dont know the tolerances in the alignment on these, may be loose since it hits an array, but it's still got to be fairly tight to be able to maintain aggregate system capacity.
Can you imagine, using something like cnheat to ID the best install spot, and send the tech out to just mount and it auto aligns, or to go self install. 
Realignment truck rolls, gone. If the aligner could turn enough, you could even move customers to new sites remotely.
I'd bet the assemblies would get into the 20 to 50 dollar range on the SM costs. Power demand would be the killer though

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 1:28 PM Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
Most guesses are upwards of $2,500 to manufacturer. Phased array antennas are very expensive and before they put a lot of effort into reducing cost, most said minimum $10k for this type of antenna.



On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 12:36 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
That antenna array alone is probably costing them $20 and another $20 of chips on it.  I am guessing it is north of $100 to make. 
 
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What do you estimate it would cost them to manufacture in large quantities?  People are probably assuming it’s a $10 item at some point, but it looks expensive to me, even at scale.

 

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Clever motor assembly.   Be fun to use that same mechanism for a solar panel.  I may have to give that a try. 

So, it does steer mechanically.  Almost has to to maximize the gain. 

 

Looks like roughly 2000 patches. 

Looks like roughly 500 chips feeding them.  So a 4 patch array fed by a T/R-LNA - power amp.  4-6 of those clusters fed into a larger chip that probably does the phasing for steering.

 

So the antenna is just a whole lot of simple in a very massive scale. 

 

 

 

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