Where are you getting 20 year water heaters?

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:48 AM Andrew Haninger <[email protected]> wrote:

> As I understand it, it is a glass lining, but it isn't perfect, so the
> water will eventually eat away at the steel tank. (Thank you Rich
> Trethewey). The anode rod prevents this and can be replaced to extend
> the life of the water heater, but it has to be replaced promptly and
> isn't a particularly easy job to do from what I've read/seen; I've
> never done it myself.
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> My best guess is that hiring a plumber to come out and replace the
> anode would end up costing just as much as replacing a water heater
> every 20 years or so. You might be able to get one to last 50 years,
> but for what?
>
> Andy
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> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 11:37 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > I thought they had a “glass” lining.  Which begs the question, why is an
> anode needed if the water doesn’t contact the steel.
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> > I suspect the glass is more like a baked on enamel or ceramic coating.
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> > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:14 AM
> > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters
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> > Water heaters are steel with a heavy galvanized coating.  So I presume
> the anode keeps the inside galvanizing in good shape.
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> > From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 9:03 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Water heaters
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> > Boats, outboard motors, water heaters. Most (all?) are made from zinc.
> On outboards we called them the sacrificial plate.
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> > bp
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> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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> > On 12/1/2020 6:43 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
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> > Boat anodes are zinc.  They form a self galvanizing electrolytic cell
> that heal any bare steel scratches in the hull coating.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 1, 2020, at 3:39 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> > There's usually a bolt looking thing on the top which is actually the
> end of the anode.
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> > The real purpose of the anode is to attract all the corrosive crap and
> corrode so your tank doesn't. Once it is fully corroded, you can either
> replace it, or the alternative is that your tank gets to corrode next and
> start to rust and eventually leak.   Seeing as it's like $20 for a
> replacement and a water heater is more, it probably is good maintenance,
> but most people never bother....  just like most people don't bother
> flushing the hot water heater itself.
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> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:21 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> > I dont think Ive ever seen an anode on a water heater, inlet, outlet,
> popoff, burner, thermocouple, drain. Is that a new thing? I havent put in a
> new water heater in a long time, or is that for electric?
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> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:32 AM Erich Kaiser <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> > If you are going to put a tank one in again make sure to replace the
> Anode rod with a DC powered one.  If you check your existing heater does
> the rod even exist or has it corroded away (It is supposed to protect the
> tank from corrosion)?  We had two 40 gal heaters replaced about 8 months
> ago, right after the install, we started to get a sulfur smell . In doing
> some research turns out even new hot water heater Anodes (magnesium) can
> have a reaction to well/hard water and the rod will need to replaced within
> a few years.  I found that you can buy a DC rod and never replace it, so I
> went that route, did it myself and the smell instantly went away.  When i
> took the rod out to replace it i could see the corrosion on the rod even
> from only being a few weeks old.
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> > Link to the anodes I purchased:
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> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KIMC91W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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> > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 12:35 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> > You guys all do different weird shit. Went to drain my gas heater tonite
> (may have put that maintenance off longer than intended)
> >
> > We are quarry country so we have super hard water. Needless to say tanks
> full of baked in sediment and when I cleared the valve I may have cracked
> the liner, about every ten seconds I'm getting a drip on the burner, and my
> pop off is dripping, probably some sediment.
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> > The water heater is the only thing I have that vents hot anymore and my
> chimney leaks in driving rain. Is rather just bash it in and put a
> dumbwaiter in the chase. I have the two fresh kids that I bet would have a
> blast riding that.
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> > Power vent gas looks to almost double the cost.
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> > Tankless is looking almost comparable in price for gas, so I'm curious
> if any of you guys run them without major water softener and filters.
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> > I'm planning on solar in the next 5 or 6 years when I redo my roof so
> electric would be the thing I go with on the water heater after the one I'm
> gonna have to put in now.
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> > I like gas water heaters because I know how to fix them, parts are
> cheap, same with my clothes dryers. But theyve priced themselves into me
> looking at my options.
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> > Tankless I dont know how to calculate gpm needs. But what led to this
> was taking the flow reducer out of my low flow shower head and running out
> of hot water in 20 minutes. I start my day by scalding myself for about a
> half hour cause I'm a filthy bastard and need to be cleansed of my sins.
> >
> > We have 2 bathrooms and a girl hitting her teens, so I assume we may be
> getting into a shower and bath coming on at the same time and the wife
> knowing what's good for her and washing dishes.
> >
> > She wont let me put a wood stove and still in the bathroom, so wood
> fired shower options are out.
> >
> > Are residential boilers a thing? All my walls had pocket doors so I have
> plenty of room for radiant walls, I dont know if boiler heat it even
> efficient though.
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