This is a big deal. Solarwinds Orion is a product used in many of the Top
100 companies in the world. Including tons of healthcare.

I dislike Solarwinds for many reasons and refused to use them even before
this hack. Just add another reason to the list.



On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:49 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> So Im reading this now that Solar Winds updates have been delivering
> payloads since june or july. Solar winds having crazy levels of access to
> interior infrastructures.
>
> Im not sure what this is saying, it sounds like what fireye isnt saying
> outwardly is their toolset was stolen prior to that and that was how they
> were able to circumvent the solarwinds security infrastructure, as solar
> winds relied on fireye?
>
> Anybody come across any good detail on solar winds impacted software? Like
> if you downloaded the free subnet calculator, will they be taking your
> google home account too? Imma be pretty pissed if they mess with my google
> play playlists.
>
> I wonder if the disruptions with office365 and the weird spam filter
> changes lately are related to cleanup prior to publication.
>
> We are a tiny company and got withing a hair of pulling the trigger on
> various solarwinds offerings over the years. Thats with tiny company tiny
> budgets. I cant imagine CTO voicemails going down around the world today,
> depending on budget, you hand the keys over to solarwinds, and by design,
> each key you hand over makes sense to spend a little more and hand over
> another key. How would you even begin to clean up your organization when
> your systems that would provide you your forensics are the systems that did
> the damage?
>
> Is this just mediahype and more russia russia russia, or is this as big of
> a deal as it seems
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 9:01 AM dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> DA HUMANITY!!
>>
>>
>> On 12/14/20 8:58 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> I had a customer this morning complaining she couldn’t “sign on” to the
>> Internet.  I mentioned that Google had an outage this morning, but she
>> responded that she doesn’t use any Google services.  Of course her email
>> was from a Gmail address.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On
>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 6:54 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fireye
>>
>>
>>
>> "I know I'm next, they're coming after my google home mini and my netflix
>> account."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> aaaaannnndddd  Google is broken this morning.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, December 13, 2020 9:57:21 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fireye
>>
>> Nope, per fireye, the toolset had to be released because of it being
>> stolen, was not "in the wild"
>>
>>
>>
>> Going to get really interesting to see what comes of this, two federal
>> agencies just happen to get hit shortly after. You can do plenty when you
>> know how you would have otherwise been caught.
>>
>>
>>
>> And that's all fireye admits to having been breached. I'm gonna go ahead
>> and not take their word on it definitively having been russia either.
>> Convenient timing after iran specifically has stated they're going to
>> retaliate for the dead scientist. China will probably confirm this shortly
>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty sure this is far from over and pretty sure this company is just
>> the first to go public.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know I'm next, they're coming after my google home mini and my netflix
>> account.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 9:10 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Not saying you are wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I think I read somewhere that the Fireye tools that were stolen were
>> a collection of malware already in the wild that they used for testing of
>> client networks.  So it was stuff already available, just neatly packaged.
>>
>>
>>
>> The guys who really f’d up were the “Equation Group” (cough, cough, NSA)
>> who lost novel and very powerful hacking tools like Eternal Blue to the
>> Shadow Brokers group.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2020 8:45 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fireye
>>
>>
>>
>> These guys F'd up beyond belief.
>>
>>
>>
>> Inept as jaime would say
>>
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