We just bought 5x brand new 1072s and they are rebooting by watchdog.
Upgraded ros and firmware, Disabled watchdog and then they hard freeze and
require a reboot.

We are going chr route. 1072 is junk.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 9:34 AM Dennis Burgess <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hate to say it, but worked.  Keep in mind that these units that we have
> had this issue had been running for 3+ years, so, it was out of warranty
> anyways.
>
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> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]*
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> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 9:45 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>
>
>
> Haha - "Get a new one" .. only with MT.
>
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>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM Dennis Burgess <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Get a new one.  That’s what we did, replaced it and the issue went away.
> Its like the 1072 has some kind of bug, or maybe a leaky cap, that
> eventually causes them to do this.  No matter of fiddling fixes it, we
> swapped out the unit and have not have the same issue since.  We have 1072s
> running 15gig inbound without issues.  So, while  I do attest that this is
> a MT (rather routeros) issue, we don’t have any data to know where it is
> unless the manufacture can tell us.  So far they are tight lipped.
>
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>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE,
> MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
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>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney
> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 12:56 AM
> *To:* af <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>
>
>
> Their support is behaving the same way exactly.  They told me to take the
> watchdog off and allow the internet to be frozen (downtime for all my
> customers) whenever it happens at any random point in the day/night while I
> rush to log into it with a serial cable.  The absurdity of it.  Luckily I
> told him from day one that I have a CONSOLE SERVER and that I log all the
> serial output of all my switches and routers.  But even though I told them
> that a couple times they still requested I plug in a serial cable and wait
> for it to freeze.  So I'm like .. hellooo there is a serial cable plugged
> in at all times!  I told him there is no output.  It just reboots.  I even
> humored him and turned the watchdog off and we had a reboot on the weekend
> while the cable was plugged in and the console was logged in.  I even had
> logging set to echo for a lot of things and nothing.. just a hard freeze.
>
>
>
> There is no BGP on this one and the processor is not high leading up to
> the crash at all.  Updated 5 times already and its just a placebo.   They
> need to get their shit together.
>
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> *From: *"Colin Stanners" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"af" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>
>
>
> This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being
> rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100%
> CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case,
> tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after
> temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection
> tracking. Not fun.
>
>
>
> MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly
> recommending to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or
> to upgrade firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem
> or nature of the fix).
>
>
>
> Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another...
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years.  Until this year and the
> 1072's.  Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's.
> Some more than others.  Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem
> exactly.  Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need connection
> tracking on one particular router.  I've adjusted everything I could.
> Firmware and board firmware all up to date etc.  Happens randomly with low
> levels of traffic,  high levels of traffic,  sometimes a couple times a
> day,  sometimes weeks.  No DDOS evidence at all from upstream routers.
> Configs checked and rechecked by third party experts.  I graph everything
> about the Mikrotik and there are no clues or anything abnormal happening
> before the crash.  Plenty of memory, disk space,  CPU etc.    Replaces all
> the trannies, power cables and such.  Not running BGP only OSPF on the one
> that is giving me the most trouble.
>
>
>
> Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and set
> it to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and
> nothing.  A hard freeze.
>
>
>
> Then there is Mikrotik support...  I've never needed their support before
> until now.  So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm getting from
> them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware and
> they are intentionally not being helpful.  It is pretty clear to see with
> all the people reporting this issue that there IS an issue.
>
>
>
> If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on
> the newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an enterprise
> level system.  Juniper most likely.  Shame because they are just about
> keeping up with the demands with their hardware.  Getting closer to 100Gbps
> etc and ROS7 ... but at their current pace I think we've outgrew them.
>
>
>
> All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when it
> comes to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot.  I
> think they know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor
> warranties.  I've heard rumors of bad batches of 1072's.
>
>
>
> Anyone else encounter this?
>
>
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>
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