Chr route?

Tushar


> On Dec 21, 2020, at 11:42 AM, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:
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> We just bought 5x brand new 1072s and they are rebooting by watchdog. 
> Upgraded ros and firmware, Disabled watchdog and then they hard freeze and 
> require a reboot. 
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> We are going chr route. 1072 is junk. 
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>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 9:34 AM Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hate to say it, but worked.  Keep in mind that these units that we have had 
>> this issue had been running for 3+ years, so, it was out of warranty 
>> anyways. 
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>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
>> Certified
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>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
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>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
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>> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
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>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
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>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Josh Baird
>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:45 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
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>> Haha - "Get a new one" .. only with MT.
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>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
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>> Get a new one.  That’s what we did, replaced it and the issue went away.  
>> Its like the 1072 has some kind of bug, or maybe a leaky cap, that 
>> eventually causes them to do this.  No matter of fiddling fixes it, we 
>> swapped out the unit and have not have the same issue since.  We have 1072s 
>> running 15gig inbound without issues.  So, while  I do attest that this is a 
>> MT (rather routeros) issue, we don’t have any data to know where it is 
>> unless the manufacture can tell us.  So far they are tight lipped. 
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>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
>> Certified
>> 
>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>> 
>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>> 
>> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>> 
>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
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>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steven Kenney
>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:56 AM
>> To: af <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
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>> Their support is behaving the same way exactly.  They told me to take the 
>> watchdog off and allow the internet to be frozen (downtime for all my 
>> customers) whenever it happens at any random point in the day/night while I 
>> rush to log into it with a serial cable.  The absurdity of it.  Luckily I 
>> told him from day one that I have a CONSOLE SERVER and that I log all the 
>> serial output of all my switches and routers.  But even though I told them 
>> that a couple times they still requested I plug in a serial cable and wait 
>> for it to freeze.  So I'm like .. hellooo there is a serial cable plugged in 
>> at all times!  I told him there is no output.  It just reboots.  I even 
>> humored him and turned the watchdog off and we had a reboot on the weekend 
>> while the cable was plugged in and the console was logged in.  I even had 
>> logging set to echo for a lot of things and nothing.. just a hard freeze.  
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>> There is no BGP on this one and the processor is not high leading up to the 
>> crash at all.  Updated 5 times already and its just a placebo.   They need 
>> to get their shit together.  
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>> STEVEN KENNEY 
>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington 
>> ON 
>> E: [email protected] | P: 519-737-9283
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>> From: "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]>
>> To: "af" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
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>> This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being 
>> rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100% 
>> CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case, 
>> tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after 
>> temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection 
>> tracking. Not fun.
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>> MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly 
>> recommending to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or to 
>> upgrade firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem or 
>> nature of the fix).
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>> Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another...
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>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years.  Until this year and the 
>> 1072's.  Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's.  Some 
>> more than others.  Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem 
>> exactly.  Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need connection 
>> tracking on one particular router.  I've adjusted everything I could.  
>> Firmware and board firmware all up to date etc.  Happens randomly with low 
>> levels of traffic,  high levels of traffic,  sometimes a couple times a day, 
>>  sometimes weeks.  No DDOS evidence at all from upstream routers.  Configs 
>> checked and rechecked by third party experts.  I graph everything about the 
>> Mikrotik and there are no clues or anything abnormal happening before the 
>> crash.  Plenty of memory, disk space,  CPU etc.    Replaces all the 
>> trannies, power cables and such.  Not running BGP only OSPF on the one that 
>> is giving me the most trouble.  
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>> Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and set it 
>> to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and nothing.  
>> A hard freeze.  
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>> Then there is Mikrotik support...  I've never needed their support before 
>> until now.  So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm getting from 
>> them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware and 
>> they are intentionally not being helpful.  It is pretty clear to see with 
>> all the people reporting this issue that there IS an issue.   
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>> If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on the 
>> newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an enterprise level 
>> system.  Juniper most likely.  Shame because they are just about keeping up 
>> with the demands with their hardware.  Getting closer to 100Gbps etc and 
>> ROS7 ... but at their current pace I think we've outgrew them.  
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>> All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when it 
>> comes to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot.  I 
>> think they know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor 
>> warranties.  I've heard rumors of bad batches of 1072's.  
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>> Anyone else encounter this?   
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>> STEVEN KENNEY 
>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington 
>> ON 
>> E: [email protected] | P: 519-737-9283
>> W: www.wavedirect.net
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