The dual-core WTM-4200 radio only suffers a coupler loss hit. I think you’re 
referencing the single-core WTM-4100 using Adaptive Dual Carrier (A2C) which 
has a significant power hit at 1024 QAM and above.

> On Jan 4, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, you can do 2 x 80mhz channels with a single core on some radios, but 
> there are some limitations. Depending on the radio, my understanding is that 
> they have to either be adjacent, or very near each other (definitely within 
> the same sub-band). It seems to me that some radios can even do two different 
> sizes of channels (like 1 80mhz + 1 40mhz), but I could be remembering that 
> wrong. If I understand it right, the Aviat radios have a significant tx power 
> hit when you activate that feature, which probably makes it unusable in a lot 
> of cases. We're doing that on a Bridgewave 11ghz link (using 4x 80mhz on a 
> dual core radio), and there's it works fine, with only a minor performance 
> hit on those radios. SIAE does have that feature as well, but I don't 
> remember if there was a significant performance hit or not... I think they 
> may have been the ones that could use two different sizes of channels.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 1:51 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Probably, LinkPlanner is pretty smart.
> I assume you don't want to use 2 antennas.
> There are some licensed radios now that I think can do 2 x 80 MHz channels in 
> a single core, like from Aviat or SIAE maybe, I don't know if this gets 
> around the splitter cost and performance issues.  I may have that feature 
> completely wrong, I haven't looked into it.  There could also be a 
> performance hit by using the same xmt power amp for 160 MHz.
> I also haven't checked out the full feature set of the new PTP850C, the only 
> thing I know it has is SFP+.
> 
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: 1/4/2021 1:30:45 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
> 
> Ok yeah, the Link Planner BOM shows some splitters.  I wonder if Link 
> Planner already accounted for the additional losses when I selected "Co 
> Polar" on the dropdown.
> 
> 
> On 1/4/2021 2:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > I seem to remember that different channel different polarization is the 
> > best, if your radio manufacturer charges for an XPIC license key.  Next 
> > best is XPIC.  And that the problem with different channel same 
> > polarization is you need a splitter which costs several dB of system gain.  
> > But that's from memory, and mine is not so reliable.
> >
> > ---- Original Message ----
> > From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Sent: 1/4/2021 1:16:26 PM
> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Subject: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
> >
> > I'm looking at a path where the coordinator can get me two 50mhz XPIC
> > channels, or two 80mhz H-Pol channels.
> >
> > I've never installed co-polar.  Do you need a lot of extra junk to make
> > that work?
> >
> >
> >
> 
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