Yes, It is definitely tough helping tech challenged older relatives. And I don’t think there is an easy way to make them completely safe online. However, the 2fa isn’t too bad once you walk them through it a bit. Especially since many sites (mostly banking) are forcing 2fa anyway. If you can get them comfortable with text messages or phone calls (phones calls make it pretty easy) they really only have to remember one password. They don’t even have to remember user IDs for the various sites. However, I would strongly recommend the Emergency option as well as shared access. Shared access is good until they change the main password and don’t tell you. Also, you need access to the phone to get the 2fa code. Emergency access will allow you to get access after a wait period even if you can’t get into the phone. My wife’s uncle had a stroke and couldn’t remember how to get into his phone, we were completely dead in the water. No only for passwords, but for things like email, contacts and other items. Knowing his icloud password and PIN for the phone would have been very helpful. That is what we have been setting up since that incident.
Regards, David Coudron From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: Managing old peoples digital footprint Rotflmao. 1fa is crazy to manage on an old. Now have to add 2fa on tech they wont adopt? On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 10:44 PM Jason McKemie <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes, however you should have 2FA activated on it, at which point it is fairly secure. On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:27 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: If it gets compromised you lose everything right? But my password protected spreadsheet had the same vulnerability. Which is more secure? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'll second this. I've been using it for a few years now and love it. On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:02 PM Darin Steffl <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Lastpass is what I recommend. Only need to know one master password then you can save random generated logins for every site. I have over 200 logins saved. I run it on android and on my chrome extension which covers all my computers. Best thing I ever did. On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 8:12 PM David Coudron <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes, There are password managers like 1Password and LastPass that have family accounts and allow personal and shared password records. Also, some have an emergency option that allows you to specific an emergency contact who can access your personal vault in case you die or are incapacitated after a defined wait period. Regards, David Coudron From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 7:45 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [AFMUG] Ot: Managing old peoples digital footprint Old people always have their grandkids setting up accounts for this or that, then the grandkids arent available when its time for support, nobody knows username and passwords, much less what email was used to set up an account. Right now for example, my uncle, who is deaf and doesnt use the internet, period, has my dad being his medical partner cause dad can hear and has me "whos good with computers". They set upp accounts, like his VA account and his healthare system accounts. But dont remember usernames and passwords. Trying to reset based on identifying info goes to the email used to set it up, but nobody knows what that is. And hes got a virtual appountment tuesday with tommorrow being a holiday Theres got to be an app or something for managing this stuff thats like a reverse parental control that kids authorize stuff for elderly. -- AF mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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