We had fun installing their Lantastic phone system over NCR WaveLAN
902-928MHz 2Mbps links...the cat's meow back in the 1990s

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 3:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lantastic.
>
> *From:* James Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:29 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wow
>
>
> Yeah but that arcnet card that used to connect it to the old netware
> server isn’t going to let it get exposed to anything.   Those ones aren’t
> the security risk (at least remote risk).
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:08 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wow
>
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> An old IBM XT in the corner running a basic program ...
>
>
>
> *From:* James Howard
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:17 AM
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> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wow
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> Scary to think how many of these types of systems there are out there that
> nobody knows how to change the passwords so employees leave or are fired
> and the new guy is just told what the password is.  That’s bad enough when
> it’s not connected and exposed to the internet.  The other problem is all
> the systems exposed to the internet with password as the password…….
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:35 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Wow
>
>
>
> This sounds a whole lot more like an ex employee with a RAT than
> "hackers". GUI driven access to a water systems control and setting a
> specific value is not the work of "hackers"
>
> I used to work at a factory as a supervisor of the contract staff when i
> was like 18, one of my roles was to record a message on the PBX every night
> indicating who was working, who was laid off, etc. I went to jail and lost
> that job. some time later i was bored so dialed into the system and tried
> out the numbers i pressed in house to see if there was external access to
> record the message. there was. The message happened to be changed to
> "nobody has to fucking work" that night, or so I hear. half the staff didnt
> show up.
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> They were "hacked" too
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> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 9:58 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> TeamViewer even...
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> *From: *"Cameron Crum" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:55:12 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Wow
>
> 1. Why is the system exposed to the public internet at all?
>
> 2. Why would they have remote desktop on a machine that has access to
> these systems?
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>
>
> Like most municipal IT departments, they are probably staffed with guys
> who couldn't get a better job in the private sector. Scary.
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>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 9:46 AM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
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> In one of the reports I read, they described the mouse/cursor moving
> around as if an invisible hand was moving it. Sounds to me as if they're
> doing a remote desktop or something?
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> bp
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> On 2/9/2021 7:42 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
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> It's like the hacks of every late 80s-early90's moving coming true.
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> On 2/9/2021 8:45 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
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> https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/08/us/oldsmar-florida-hack-water-poison/index.html
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