Chuck!  Go for it!

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just 
wondering...

From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordered Starlink.

Their house is 150% encased in trees.

This should be interesting to watch.

He’s also getting 50 down by 40 up on our service for $110.


On Feb 9, 2021, at 1:29 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
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Its not koolaid, its great marketing!


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From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of 
Josh Luthman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood
People are stupid and willing to suck up the Apple/Elon kool aid?  I'm shocked.

People think they need 50 mbps or 150 mbps when they have *NO IDEA* what 
they're currently using is just a fine example of marketing and bigger is 
always better (see muscle cars in the 60s).

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On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There have been published discussions with Musk about RV's and Starlink and a 
separate interview with the developers where the RV use of starlink was 
discussed and committed to by both Musk and the developers.   I figure I want 
to get the h/w and play with it at a fixed location to understand setup time, 
quality, limitations ( can you have another router, address space, etc. etc.. ) 
before moving it to the RV.   I figured the list is going to get pretty long 
and the h/w will change with expansion of production, evolution of the service. 
 So being early will have advantages and disadvantages.   So final usage in the 
RV is the goal but not initial need.
On 2/9/21 9:44 AM, David Sovereen via AF wrote:
Robert,

I wanted was going to sign up to get Starlink for my RV but saw this on their 
web site and decided to postpone until I learned more:

Can I travel with Starlink, or move it to a different address?
Starlink satellites are scheduled to send internet down to all users within a 
designated area on the ground. This designated area is referred to as a cell.
Your Starlink is assigned to a single cell. If you move your Starlink outside 
of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve your Starlink 
and you will not receive internet. This is constrained by geometry and is not 
arbitrary geofencing.
Please let us know how traveling with it works out for you.  If it does travel 
well, I want it!

Thanks,

Dave

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On Feb 9, 2021, at 12:37 PM, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

I see that Musk is, a) testing demand, b) raising a chunk of Starlink specific 
cash ( no strings attached ), c) figuring out where the next orbits/ground 
stations need to be.  d) understanding usage and limitations.   All very valid 
reasons to open up general sales.   I threw $100 at it to get on the list for 
one that I will use with the RV in the future and to test the reality of the 
service.   It should be interesting to watch performance change with the 
addition of infrastructure vs. customers.
On 2/9/21 8:46 AM, David Coudron wrote:
I ordered a Starlink system as my cabin is in an area that we can get service 
right away from Starlink and we don’t service the area with our network.   
Other locations in MN say it will be middle to late 2021 for service 
availability.   I should have some first hand knowledge in a week or two.   As 
mentioned below, it is basically $600 to start and $99 a month.   Will be 
interesting.

Regards,

David Coudron

From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:34 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

If he's truly surrounded by trees with no clear sky like the Starlink app shows 
with their VR overlay, he will likely have a poor experience with it and maybe 
come back.

We always tell people canceling what their average usage is because we use 
Preseem and most people rarely average more than 10 Mbps unless they're doing a 
download.

So someone on our 25 Mbps plan will peak and hit that but their average is 
typically under 10 Mbps so if they switch for something "faster", we will tell 
them they won't notice a difference and send screenshots of their preseem 
graphs to prove it. If you average 10 Mbps, having 1000 Mbps fiber instead of 
25 Mbps won't feel any faster at all.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:28 AM Matt Hoppes 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Got our first "Starlink" call today.  Guy who's been a long term
customer - paying $90 for 50 megabits -- and getting that.

Says "I'd rather give my money to a local company than to Musk, but
those speeds.  Any chance you'll be offering faster speeds?".

My only response was - if you truly need 150 megabits at your home, then
Starlink is probably a better option for you.  We've found that 99% of
our customers barely use 25 megabits, which is why our top plan is 50
megabits.

"OK, well I just wanted to try to give money locally".

I appreciate that, but if you'd like to pay $9 more per month, plus a
$600 install fee, to get the same speeds you're getting with us with the
occasional faster speeds, and drops with every satellite switch, be my
guest.

This guy's house is also completely surrounded by trees.  I'm curious to
see how this will play out.

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