There is a branch of the left that does not trust science.  And of course 
alt-right has their alternate science truthiness.  

There was a good article about Evergreen College up in Washington.  In an 
article in the Olympian the writer said:
  Evergreen now seems fully in the control of an anti-science, anti-rational, 
anti-liberty, racist minority embedded in the administration and faculty which 
holds the rest of the staff, faculty, and students hostage. If you oppose them, 
or even don't actively support them, they will strip you of your livelihood if 
you are faculty or staff, or your education if you are a student.

If the far left and far right merge at the bottom of the circle with anti 
science, thus presumably mushy math practitioners, then at the top of the 
circle where left and right meet must be the haven for math and science.  That 
is the spot I consider myself to be.  

In my universe it is 2 dimensional.  Everyone is on my circle and can be 
described by a vector.  Magnitude and Angle.  I am hopefully about a .5 @ 90 
degrees.  Perhaps 80 degrees.  

But you gotta use a smith chart to find folks like antifa and proud boyz.  They 
have reactances...

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 12:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political

This is part of the equity vs equality stupidity.  
I always loved math, even the math that exceeded my scope because its the only 
honesty. Math is rigid and doesnt care about you, or your identity. A wrong 
answer in woke equity is right as long as your intentions were good. Equity 
makes things blow up. Math/=Equity
Ill stick with the old truths of mathematics

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 12:49 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:


This course seems stupid.  The original context is the Oregon DOE newsletter 
provided a link to it.  

On the one hand, the DOE is not forcing any teachers to take this course.  On 
the other hand I don't understand why they would even suggest it.  On the 
other-other hand, I don't think we need to flip about it.  This is not an 
actual math curriculum.




On 2/12/2021 1:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Yeah, that is what got me too.  We all know there are a bunch of ways to arrive 
at the right answer.  But in math, most of the time there is one and only one 
right answer.  Or in the cases of roots, you can have two right elements of the 
solution but you need both of them to constitute the one right answer.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 11:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political

I think this quote pretty much tells you all you need to know: "Upholding the 
idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as 
well as fear of open conflict."

If they were talking about teaching different methods of arriving at the 
correct answer, that's a fair discussion. I think it's probably true that there 
are differences in the way individual's brains work that make some methods work 
better for some people than others (although I seriously doubt that has 
anything to do with race, but it could very well be related to cultural and 
linguistic background), so there's a reasonable argument for saying that we 
should look at different methods of arriving at the correct answer, but I'm 
pretty sure that math is one area where there is in fact always a right and 
wrong answer.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:54 AM Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:

Well if that doesn't spell it out for you, I don't know what does. I was half 
kidding in my response earlier, but looks like it was spot on now. We are 
doomed if this crap is allowed to proceed. 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:48 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/oregon-math-course-racism-white-supremacy-teachers
https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-education-math-white-supremacy

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT possibly political

Not sure of your source but I think you misunderstand.   

https://www.mathnasium.com/littleton-news-when-one-correct-math-answer-is-not-enough

"Reframing the above problem to encourage divergent thinking might look 
something like this:

“Find the sum of 32 + 5 and then create more equations that have the same sum.”

Theoretically, someone could keep thinking about this problem forever and 
generate infinite correct answers."








On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

Just read of a push to teach a “new math” the encourages multiple “correct 
answers” to math problems and eliminates “show your work”.  Supposedly cleanses 
math teaching from institutional racism.

OK, irrespective of your genetics, heritage, cultural backgropund and gender 
choices, if I tell an employee to go read the sequentials off of a reel of 
cable and tell me how much is left, they better get one frigging answer, the 
one and only correct answer.  

So I am an old fat entitled unwoke white guy.  By some accounts automatically 
racist.  I don’t feel that way, but again I am unwoke (whatever in the hell 
that means)  so I wouldn’t know.  

I simply don’t get how getting the one and only right answer in math class is 
institutional racism.  Can you imagine someone that came up through schools 
that allow this trying to get into an engineering program?  Now who is 
suppressing whom...
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