Such useful information. Thanks. I've been breaking down the apples to apples and and the only thing making me lean toward MS is the Azure AD angle. This way I can manage all the Windows machines and they all have one login for pretty much everything. That being said going Google its just one browser login for everything.
Just my experience with Microsoft has been a clown show. I don't trust Google an inch, but a lot of what they built was on the backs of open source and interoperability so I respect that. From: "David Coudron" <[email protected]> To: "af" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 4:40:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft vs Google We work with a number of mid to enterprise sized corporate clients as part of our consulting practice. Within those communities, Google’s toolset holds a very small piece of the market, if even countable. Microsoft’s toolset, (Office 365 with Exchange, Teams, Sharepoint, Outlook, etc) seems to be very stable and very secure. These organizations spend a lot of time looking at these kinds of things. Additionally, these same organizations are moving their applications environments to AWS and Azure in large volume. We are seeing healthcare organizations handling HIPAA and HITRUST requirements as well as strong PCI requirement driven movement. While we don’t have data points for these kinds of movements, we are not seeing much push to move towards Google. This same movement is pushing down to smaller and smaller organizations all the time. We recently had a client with 3 employees move from Google to Microsoft’s Office 365 as they struggled with some of the gaps in the Google offering. The Teams client has been problematic as I understand it, however, for a year, our consultants feel it surpasses Zoom and Webex. We don’t see enough of Google Meet for that to even be a comparison. A big benefit to Teams is that includes the functionality of Slack (for the most part), Zoom, and shared file systems/repositories. Additionally it is integrated into Outlook very well. All this being said, there are always reasons for organizations to pick another option. My wife’s firm has been using Google for 6-7 years, but they are actively looking to move towards Microsoft, just hard to pull the trigger like that in a year like 2020. There are several reasons, not the least of which are: 1. You get an Office apps license for users that you pay extra for. It is lots easier then managing separate Office and Google app licenses. 2. You get 1 TB of drive storage for each user allowing them to back up their computer hard drives without having to purchase another license for something to do that. 3. No need to have Slack and Teams, can do it all in Teams (they had this before Hangout was mature enough) 4. No need to have Zoom and Teams can do it all in Teams (they had this before Meet was mature enough) Honestly, we really don’t see any 40 person organizations move to Google from Office365. It is always the other way around. But obviously that is just our experience so take that for what it’s worth. (not much 😊 ) Regards, David Coudron From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft vs Google microsoft all the way. slower to adopt new toy tech, longer support of outdated endpoints, stodgy old goats are reliable old goats. The whole current security issue is a nothingburger to me as I assume google just never comes clean On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:48 PM Steven Kenney < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > wrote: You have a choice of moving your office applications, all of its documents, email server , video conferencing, project management and other applications from on prem to cloud based. Which one do you choose? One will cost more than the other for sure. One allows you to join a domain via Azure AD and set policies and remote manage computers One will be better to bounce SSO and auth off. One is more reliable than the other. One is more trustworthy than the other (although both are deep in government and alphabet agencies). One offers a nicer user experience for less technical people. IE: more accessible / user friendly One offers a more granular experience for more technical people. One is more compatible with a wide variety of hardware and software operating systems Consider this for a staff of 40 people half of which are technical half which are not as technical. Which route would you go? [ https://www.wavedirect.net/ ] [ https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed ] [ https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/ ] [ https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/ ] [ https://twitter.com/wavedirect1 ] [ https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect ] STEVEN KENNEY DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] | P: 519-737-9283 W: [ http://www.wavedirect.net/ | www.wavedirect.net ] -- AF mailing list [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] [ http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com | http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ] -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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