Well this is a case of combining a lot of people into 1 system who are used to 
their own systems. So some people prefer Google some prefer Microsoft and I 
need to be the voice of reason and break it down for all to see. So the 
decision will be clear. 


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From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> 
To: "af" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:28:24 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft vs Google 

We love Google apps going on 9 years now. I've never been a fan of Microsoft. 

We also use slack but if Microsoft includes much of the functionality of slack 
and zoom in their offerings, it may be worth looking into for someone wanting 
to switch. 

We love Google too much and have very few pain points so there is nothing 
driving us to even research an alternative. 

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 3:41 PM David Coudron < [ 
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We work with a number of mid to enterprise sized corporate clients as part of 
our consulting practice. Within those communities, Google’s toolset holds a 
very small piece of the market, if even countable. Microsoft’s toolset, (Office 
365 with Exchange, Teams, Sharepoint, Outlook, etc) seems to be very stable and 
very secure. These organizations spend a lot of time looking at these kinds of 
things. 



Additionally, these same organizations are moving their applications 
environments to AWS and Azure in large volume. We are seeing healthcare 
organizations handling HIPAA and HITRUST requirements as well as strong PCI 
requirement driven movement. While we don’t have data points for these kinds of 
movements, we are not seeing much push to move towards Google. This same 
movement is pushing down to smaller and smaller organizations all the time. We 
recently had a client with 3 employees move from Google to Microsoft’s Office 
365 as they struggled with some of the gaps in the Google offering. 



The Teams client has been problematic as I understand it, however, for a year, 
our consultants feel it surpasses Zoom and Webex. We don’t see enough of Google 
Meet for that to even be a comparison. A big benefit to Teams is that includes 
the functionality of Slack (for the most part), Zoom, and shared file 
systems/repositories. Additionally it is integrated into Outlook very well. 



All this being said, there are always reasons for organizations to pick another 
option. My wife’s firm has been using Google for 6-7 years, but they are 
actively looking to move towards Microsoft, just hard to pull the trigger like 
that in a year like 2020. There are several reasons, not the least of which 
are: 

    1. You get an Office apps license for users that you pay extra for. It is 
lots easier then managing separate Office and Google app licenses. 
    2. You get 1 TB of drive storage for each user allowing them to back up 
their computer hard drives without having to purchase another license for 
something to do that. 
    3. No need to have Slack and Teams, can do it all in Teams (they had this 
before Hangout was mature enough) 
    4. No need to have Zoom and Teams can do it all in Teams (they had this 
before Meet was mature enough) 




Honestly, we really don’t see any 40 person organizations move to Google from 
Office365. It is always the other way around. But obviously that is just our 
experience so take that for what it’s worth. (not much 😊 ) 



Regards, 



David Coudron 




From: AF < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] > On 
Behalf Of Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:18 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [ mailto:[email protected] | 
[email protected] ] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft vs Google 





microsoft all the way. slower to adopt new toy tech, longer support of outdated 
endpoints, stodgy old goats are reliable old goats. The whole current security 
issue is a nothingburger to me as I assume google just never comes clean 





On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:48 PM Steven Kenney < [ mailto:[email protected] 
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You have a choice of moving your office applications, all of its documents, 
email server , video conferencing, project management and other applications 
from on prem to cloud based. 





Which one do you choose? 





One will cost more than the other for sure. 


One allows you to join a domain via Azure AD and set policies and remote manage 
computers 


One will be better to bounce SSO and auth off. 


One is more reliable than the other. 


One is more trustworthy than the other (although both are deep in government 
and alphabet agencies). 


One offers a nicer user experience for less technical people. IE: more 
accessible / user friendly 


One offers a more granular experience for more technical people. 


One is more compatible with a wide variety of hardware and software operating 
systems 








Consider this for a staff of 40 people half of which are technical half which 
are not as technical. 





Which route would you go? 








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