There is probably a way to do it without on-prem hybrid and AD, but I have not seen that.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:33 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > Send AF mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AF digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: AF Digest, Vol 34, Issue 257 (Ryan McAfee) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:31:29 -0500 > From: Ryan McAfee <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF Digest, Vol 34, Issue 257 > Message-ID: > <CAKC9HZz7HrPk+yAEfDaW7q2nix_zEoP= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > You should be able to do it. You will have to run Exchange hybrid servers > either on-prem or in a DC somewhere. In Active Directory, you put an > alias on the users for [email protected] for their O365 > account, then make that the routing address for their accounts. > Your inbound email would come into those hybrid servers. For the users in > O365, the hybrid servers will route mail to that destination. You can then > have it route all other mail wherever it needs to go. > > You can also have the email come into the O365 environment, and (I THINK!), > send all the unmatched mail to the hybrid servers to handle. Then an SMTP > policy there to route to whatever customer email servers you are using. > > For customer->company email, you'd have to be able to route any non-local > users to exchange. > > Ryan > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:11 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Send AF mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of AF digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Microsoft vs Google (Steve Jones) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:10:01 -0500 > > From: Steve Jones <[email protected]> > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft vs Google > > Message-ID: > > < > > cagoa4nou_1wcbebu3p+1fhp-eu-lkoajpooasjqtsie9cp1...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > this thread got me looking at microsoft options again, im having issues > > with our openfire server and trillian messenger not keeping in sync, its > a > > versioning issue. but it looks like teams has the old microsoft messenger > > now, im betting this would solve that. > > > > we have an issue, our company email is also our customer email, we host > at > > rackspace, and we use hosted exchange for company emails through them, > > customers are primarily pop. the whole shared domain with a 3rd party > > hosted exchange thing has always been weird with resource visibility. > > > > Im looking at the microsoft options, anybody here doing the split domain > > routing for email successfully? > > > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:50 AM Steven Kenney <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Well this is a case of combining a lot of people into 1 system who are > > > used to their own systems. So some people prefer Google some prefer > > > Microsoft and I need to be the voice of reason and break it down for > all > > to > > > see. So the decision will be clear. > > > > > > > > > [image: logo] <https://www.wavedirect.net/> > > > <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> > > > <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> > > > <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> > > > * STEVEN KENNEY * > > > DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | > > > Leamington ON > > > E: [email protected] | P: 519-737-9283 > > > W: www.wavedirect.net > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> > > > *To: *"af" <[email protected]> > > > *Sent: *Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:28:24 AM > > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft vs Google > > > > > > We love Google apps going on 9 years now. I've never been a fan of > > > Microsoft. > > > > > > We also use slack but if Microsoft includes much of the functionality > of > > > slack and zoom in their offerings, it may be worth looking into for > > someone > > > wanting to switch. > > > > > > We love Google too much and have very few pain points so there is > nothing > > > driving us to even research an alternative. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 3:41 PM David Coudron < > > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> We work with a number of mid to enterprise sized corporate clients as > > >> part of our consulting practice. Within those communities, Google?s > > >> toolset holds a very small piece of the market, if even countable. > > >> Microsoft?s toolset, (Office 365 with Exchange, Teams, Sharepoint, > > Outlook, > > >> etc) seems to be very stable and very secure. These organizations > > spend a > > >> lot of time looking at these kinds of things. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Additionally, these same organizations are moving their applications > > >> environments to AWS and Azure in large volume. We are seeing > > healthcare > > >> organizations handling HIPAA and HITRUST requirements as well as > strong > > PCI > > >> requirement driven movement. While we don?t have data points for > these > > >> kinds of movements, we are not seeing much push to move towards > Google. > > >> This same movement is pushing down to smaller and smaller > organizations > > all > > >> the time. We recently had a client with 3 employees move from Google > > to > > >> Microsoft?s Office 365 as they struggled with some of the gaps in the > > >> Google offering. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> The Teams client has been problematic as I understand it, however, > for a > > >> year, our consultants feel it surpasses Zoom and Webex. We don?t see > > >> enough of Google Meet for that to even be a comparison. A big > benefit > > to > > >> Teams is that includes the functionality of Slack (for the most part), > > >> Zoom, and shared file systems/repositories. Additionally it is > > integrated > > >> into Outlook very well. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> All this being said, there are always reasons for organizations to > pick > > >> another option. My wife?s firm has been using Google for 6-7 years, > > but > > >> they are actively looking to move towards Microsoft, just hard to pull > > the > > >> trigger like that in a year like 2020. There are several reasons, > not > > the > > >> least of which are: > > >> > > >> 1. You get an Office apps license for users that you pay extra for. > > >> It is lots easier then managing separate Office and Google app > > licenses. > > >> 2. You get 1 TB of drive storage for each user allowing them to > back > > >> up their computer hard drives without having to purchase another > > license > > >> for something to do that. > > >> 3. No need to have Slack and Teams, can do it all in Teams (they > had > > >> this before Hangout was mature enough) > > >> 4. No need to have Zoom and Teams can do it all in Teams (they had > > >> this before Meet was mature enough) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Honestly, we really don?t see any 40 person organizations move to > Google > > >> from Office365. It is always the other way around. But obviously > > that > > >> is just our experience so take that for what it?s worth. (not much ?) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> David Coudron > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:18 PM > > >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > > >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft vs Google > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> microsoft all the way. slower to adopt new toy tech, longer support of > > >> outdated endpoints, stodgy old goats are reliable old goats. The whole > > >> current security issue is a nothingburger to me as I assume google > just > > >> never comes clean > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:48 PM Steven Kenney <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> You have a choice of moving your office applications, all of its > > >> documents, email server , video conferencing, project management and > > other > > >> applications from on prem to cloud based. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Which one do you choose? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> One will cost more than the other for sure. > > >> > > >> One allows you to join a domain via Azure AD and set policies and > remote > > >> manage computers > > >> > > >> One will be better to bounce SSO and auth off. > > >> > > >> One is more reliable than the other. > > >> > > >> One is more trustworthy than the other (although both are deep in > > >> government and alphabet agencies). > > >> > > >> One offers a nicer user experience for less technical people. IE: > more > > >> accessible / user friendly > > >> > > >> One offers a more granular experience for more technical people. > > >> > > >> One is more compatible with a wide variety of hardware and software > > >> operating systems > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Consider this for a staff of 40 people half of which are technical > half > > >> which are not as technical. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Which route would you go? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> [image: logo] <https://www.wavedirect.net/> > > >> > > >> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> > > >> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> > > >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> > > >> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> > > >> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> > > >> > > >> *STEVEN KENNEY * > > >> *DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY * > > >> > > >> *A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: [email protected] > > >> <[email protected]> | P: 519-737-9283 W: www.wavedirect.net > > >> <http://www.wavedirect.net>* > > >> > > >> -- > > >> AF mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > >> > > >> -- > > >> AF mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > AF mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > > > AF mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/private/af_af.afmug.com/attachments/20210318/cc314fee/attachment.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > AF mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of AF Digest, Vol 34, Issue 257 > > *********************************** > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/private/af_af.afmug.com/attachments/20210318/a65d4226/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AF Digest, Vol 34, Issue 259 > *********************************** >
-- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
