What is often missing from play accounts is often liquidity.  They
generally assume you can make any trade at wherever the current "price"
is.   If you are trading VWAPY that might generally be true.  Perhaps not
for VWAGY.  Often not when trending $rando penny stock.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:12 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:

> im simply not grasping this
> on the paper trading site, ive made 7500 this morning on 10k i was playing
> with. thats 11,000 dollars in 2 days of playing around with essentially
> 10,000 up front. There has to be more to this.
> i see on my schwab account if i make more than 4 same day trades in a week
> i get flagged as a day trader and need to have 25,000 in my account or i
> get a margin call. I dont know what that means, im not buying on margin, it
> would be cash.
>
> assuming that I had actually had 10,000 in my real account, would I really
> have profited 11,000 in 2 days on 5 trades? (there was some math mistakes
> made, I made the same size purchase each time, forgetting that the
> increased price lowered the number of stocks i could get for 10k, but
> technically the sale would have put enough in to cover the difference)
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 4:08 PM Caleb Knauer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It works great, right until it doesn't.  If it was that easy then we'd
>> all be wolf of wallstreet.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:13 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > So I've been dicking around with the market, trivial amount, 5 shares
>> per stock. If I had put a lot in Tesco would have done me well.
>> >
>> > I have 100 shares of this penny stock, it's a gold backed
>> cryptocurrency, I watch it bounce a lot throug the day and its followed the
>> same trend for its couple months existence.
>> >
>> > So I set up a paper account and was dicking today with another penny
>> stock. Set buy and sell limits with about 10,000 in the play money. It made
>> 4k in 2 rounds. It's just a couple pennies it fluctuates but at 500,000
>> shares that adds up.
>> >
>> > I told the wife and of course she wants me to cash in something and
>> play with real money.
>> >
>> > I'm more inclined to see how the play money performs, I have some
>> limits on the crypto stock that we will see what happens on monday morning.
>> >
>> > I'm thinking to myself there has to be a catch. If it was that simple,
>> everybody would be doing it.
>> >
>> > You guys who mess around probably went through a time where you tried
>> that kind of trading, and none of you talk about it now, so I assume the
>> catch is pretty straight forward.
>> >
>> > I was looking at my IRA, it's done pretty good at 17 percent. But just
>> taking 10k of it and playing with this at 1 percent per trading day, that
>> would be another 27k annually.
>> >
>> > I do see why day traders need low latency though, but with limits I
>> dont see it has a lot of impact.
>> >
>> > What's to stop a guy from spending an hour or 2 every morning with a
>> relatively small amount in the big scheme of things like 10k trading to 1
>> percent or better and then going to work? 100 bucks a day or more doesnt
>> seem terrible for an hour.
>> >
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