I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's not a short drive.  In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber.  In some cases it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to the neighborhood.  I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so it's really DSL even though it's fiber.  This conversation was about a year ago, I forget what he called the converter.

Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to us all have a common complaint, poor speeds.  They were promised 30MBps or higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not getting.  We have two customers that switched because they telework from home.  They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for filling out orders and forms which are mostly text?  Barely 1MBps if that and zipply lost those accounts.

We market like a puppy-store.  Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try us, compared to what you have already.  If you like us then start paying after 30 days.  If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no charges.  No contract.

On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe...





On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow
    them do you?  They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing
    squad and start-up a new company.  The local VP was someone I
    personally know.  He moved away on a new venture of his own, he
    started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody other than his
    wife and customers.  He's much happier and healthy now.


    On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    Zipply is totally different management than Frontier.



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    *From: *"Jan-GAMs" <[email protected]>
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    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

    Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support,
    wouldn't take care of their customers, etc.... . We had to switch
    our phone service, it too sucked.  They used to be GE, then
    Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply.  Same people, same
    company, same trucks, same buildings.  Selling DSL as if it's
    fiber.  They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some
    kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the
    area.  The further they get down the road of course, the shittier
    the signal.  I think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the
    law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new name.


    We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to
    get 6MBps of iffy service for $90/mo.  We give them 30MBps for
    $55/mo.  They're real happy I knocked on their door.


    On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

        They changed their name?



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        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

        You must not be from around here.  their reputation got so
        bad they changed their name

        On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

            frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of
            the rules and are completely on the up an up. When I
            think of an upstanding company, I think of Frontier

            On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a
                number of mobile and iLEC’s running CBRS gear
                illegally.   Frontier has been playing pretty fast
                and loose with the rules around here.

                Mark

                > On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
                >
                > Does anyone know how to get in touch with a
                T-Mobile RF engineer?
                >
                > Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy
                interference from what we believe is a new T-Mobile
                site at an American tower facility.
                >
                > The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and
                appears to be operating in the part 90 portion of the
                band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not a part
                96 CBRS device.
                >
                > American tower has been no help other than opening
                a ticket.
                >
                > Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been
                any help either other than telling us it’s not in the
                SAS.
                >
                > I’ve also done an application search in the FCC
                auction 105 (CRBS) site, but T-mobile must have been
                bidding under a different name.
                >
                > Any help is much appreciated,
                >
                > -Sean Heskett
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