I wonder what is behind zipply?   I just got asked to go to a mid sized town 
and build zipply ftth.  I might.  Their rates are pretty good for contractors.  
So who is behind them?  They are overbuilding ILECS.  

From: Jan-GAMs 
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's 
not a short drive.  In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to 
the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber.  In some cases it 
comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where both 
fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to the 
neighborhood.  I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, he 
said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so it's 
really DSL even though it's fiber.  This conversation was about a year ago, I 
forget what he called the converter.


Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to us 
all have a common complaint, poor speeds.  They were promised 30MBps or higher 
and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able to 
connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not getting.  
We have two customers that switched because they telework from home.  They file 
documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for filling out orders and 
forms which are mostly text?  Barely 1MBps if that and zipply lost those 
accounts.  


We market like a puppy-store.  Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try 
us, compared to what you have already.  If you like us then start paying after 
30 days.  If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no charges.  
No contract.  


On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

  Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the 
thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? 
C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and 
providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they are 
stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is 
delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe...





  On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do 
you?  They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a new 
company.  The local VP was someone I personally know.  He moved away on a new 
venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody 
other than his wife and customers.  He's much happier and healthy now.



    On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

      Zipply is totally different management than Frontier.




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      Midwest Internet Exchange

      The Brothers WISP






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      From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:[email protected]
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact


      Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take 
care of their customers, etc.... . We had to switch our phone service, it too 
sucked.  They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're 
zipply.  Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings.  Selling DSL 
as if it's fiber.  They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind 
of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area.  The further 
they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal.  I think that's 
their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear 
with a new name.



      We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps 
of iffy service for $90/mo.  We give them 30MBps for $55/mo.  They're real 
happy I knocked on their door.




      On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

        They changed their name?




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        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions

        Midwest Internet Exchange

        The Brothers WISP






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        From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:[email protected]
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact


        You must not be from around here.  their reputation got so bad they 
changed their name


        On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

          frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules 
and are completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I 
think of Frontier

          On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            I  can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of mobile 
and iLEC’s running CBRS gear illegally.   Frontier has been playing pretty fast 
and loose with the rules around here.

            Mark

            > On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
            > 
            > Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer?
            > 
            > Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what 
we believe is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility.  
            > 
            > The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be 
operating in the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device 
and not a part 96 CBRS device.
            > 
            > American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket.  
            > 
            > Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either 
other than telling us it’s not in the SAS.
            > 
            > I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 
(CRBS) site, but T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name.
            > 
            > Any help is much appreciated,
            > 
            > -Sean Heskett
            > 970-846-8065
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