If they insist on fax and the volume isn't crazy, HTTPS fax is an
awesome solution for this.  We have never had an issue with it, and we
have 100+ ATAs out there using it in all sorts of situations.

Otherwise POTS is generally my recommendation if FoIP/T.38 doesn't work. 

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> Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:[email protected]>
> November 19, 2021 at 11:57
> I just ran into this yesterday. 
> I wonder if it is a HIPPA thing or DEA thing where you can control the
> end point of the conveyance of the information?
>  
> IP is not as secure, perhaps, in someone’s mind. 
>  
> Them doctors loves their faxes. 
>  
> First FTTH customer I ever did was to a larger office full of
> doctors.  I talked them into swinging everything to me.
> I payed to have the incumbent hook them back up to POTS after a few
> days of trying. 
> The main doctor in this new office building was a friend of mine. 
>  
> I will never touch a doctor or pharmacy again. 
>  
> Fax and IP/SIP just do not play nice. 
>  
> *From:* Brian Webster
> *Sent:* Friday, November 19, 2021 11:02 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines
>  
>
> I think there is something about the law and a document being a legal
> signature being an original or a fax. Laws haven’t caught up to
> digital signatures or pictures of an original document.
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>  
>
> *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Friday, November 19, 2021 12:38 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines
>
>  
>
> One of my Physical therapy customers, all their patient documentation
> is via fax.  The therapist hand writes out the report for the patient,
> then it's faxed to corporate where it's automagically sucked into the
> customers digital file.  So they send 100 faxes/day.  You would think
> that it should all be just entered right into the customers digital
> file. 
>
> On 11/19/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>  
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> Brian Webster <mailto:[email protected]>
> November 19, 2021 at 11:02
>
> I think there is something about the law and a document being a legal
> signature being an original or a fax. Laws haven’t caught up to
> digital signatures or pictures of an original document.
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>  
>
> *From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
> *Sent:* Friday, November 19, 2021 12:38 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines
>
>  
>
> One of my Physical therapy customers, all their patient documentation
> is via fax.  The therapist hand writes out the report for the patient,
> then it's faxed to corporate where it's automagically sucked into the
> customers digital file.  So they send 100 faxes/day.  You would think
> that it should all be just entered right into the customers digital
> file. 
>
> On 11/19/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>  
>
>
>
> Nate Burke <mailto:[email protected]>
> November 19, 2021 at 10:38
> One of my Physical therapy customers, all their patient documentation
> is via fax.  The therapist hand writes out the report for the patient,
> then it's faxed to corporate where it's automagically sucked into the
> customers digital file.  So they send 100 faxes/day.  You would think
> that it should all be just entered right into the customers digital
> file. 
>
> On 11/19/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
> November 19, 2021 at 10:33
> For some, it's because they're old.
>
> For others, it's because their industry is a dumpster fire (insurance,
> medical, etc.).
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Jay Weekley" <[email protected]>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Friday, November 19, 2021 11:24:48 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fax Machines
>
> Why do people fax anything in 2021?
>
> Mike Hammett wrote:
> > I'm having fax problems as well. We're going to get reseller
> > relationships with the incumbents so we can get a POTS line installed
> > and just not freaking deal with it anymore.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >
> >
> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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> > *From: *"Nate Burke" <[email protected]>
> > *To: *"Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
> > *Sent: *Friday, November 19, 2021 10:50:01 AM
> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fax Machines
> >
> > I'm having trouble with one of my customers who insists on having a real
> > fax machine.  I'm not convinced that it's not the Fax machine talking to
> > the ATA, so I was going to take another fax machine to their location to
> > test.  From the Packet captures, it looks like the Fax machine does not
> > successfully negotiate the baud rate.  I have several customers doing
> > faxing with ATA's and fax machines, the only difference with this
> > customer is that their ATA is off my network behind a Comcast
> connection.
> >
> > My desktop laser multifunction is a fax machine, but it also weighs
> > about 80lb so I don't really want to lug it over.  I figured I could
> > pickup a cheap inkjet printer for <$50 and it would fax, but it looks
> > like fax capability is now relegated to the $200+ machines. Which I
> > guess makes sense since nobody 'should' be faxing anymore.
> >
> > Are there still cheap fax machines out there that I'm missing.
> >
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> Jay Weekley <mailto:[email protected]>
> November 19, 2021 at 10:24
> Why do people fax anything in 2021?
>
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