They both suck is my point.

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On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:04 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:

> Except airtags piggyback on every ios device that hasn't opted out,
> whereas tile is only if you have installed the tile app, so the devices are
> the same, the 'coverage' is vastly different
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Tile is just as good as Air Tag.  It's all based on BTLE locatability.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
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>>
>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No but reading about it leaves me with little enthusiasm.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Have you tried Tile App?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If something comes up missing, can you get in and poll it?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:49 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>
>>>> I've had mine for a couple of years.  I'm happy.  Keep in mind the up
>>>> front charge covers all the data for the next few years, too.  At $0/mo I'm
>>>> much happier.
>>>>
>>>> The way the units are built I'm not feeling like they were intended for
>>>> a battery replacement but once it's dead there's no reason not to pop it
>>>> open and see what you can do.
>>>>
>>>> It's reporting once a day and that's what makes the battery last so
>>>> long.  Once you know there's a problem, you can enable constant monitoring
>>>> (which could start anywhere from 1 minute to 24 hours).
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The airtags test was a flop.  I put one on my son’s truck without him
>>>>> knowing.  It would occasionally report a location while on a busy street 
>>>>> or
>>>>> highway but most of the time no.  He does not use an iphone so it was a
>>>>> good test.
>>>>>
>>>>> The lack of reporting in frequently along with the lack of history of
>>>>> the locations make them unusable for tracking equipment for the purpose of
>>>>> finding it when it is missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interested in the thing Paul Dowling is working on.
>>>>>
>>>>> gpsandfleet.com is pretty spendy.  Can you replace the battery?
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* TJ Trout
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:02 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a guy on YouTube who mailed airtags to n Korea and several
>>>>> other places just to track them for a video, pretty interesting. They seem
>>>>> to work pretty good, dare I say almost as good as a cellular tracker?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 9:11 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For trailers and stuff?  I use gpsandfleet.com - it's a $250 one
>>>>>> time purchase and works until the battery dies.  Do a 1 poll/day cycle 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> it's 3-5 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recurring payment expense is my main concern.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* [email protected]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:46 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a cellular/GPS asset tracker coming out in a few months.
>>>>>>> Chuck, happy to let you test it out NC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 7:11 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep ..sneaky and probably illegal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 12:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So free forwarding just automagically happens?  They ride some
>>>>>>>>> random persons data plan?
>>>>>>>>> I realize it is such a small amount of data but that is a pretty
>>>>>>>>> sneaky way of getting a free ride.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The phones will pickup the Bluetooth beacon and relay the phone’s
>>>>>>>>> gps to the tracking service.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Basically a GPS by proxy on behalf of the tracking token.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It relies on random folks wandering by and the Bluetooth token
>>>>>>>>> snagging enough “air time” to report home.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jim Bouse
>>>>>>>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>>>>>>>>> 979-999-7000
>>>>>>>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>>>>>>>> via AF
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 12:45 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Being lazy and not wanting to do the research.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do the air tags work.  In other words, how do they get
>>>>>>>>> connectivity to the world.  Most of the stuff I have read talks about 
>>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>>> tooth but that isnt worth anything over distance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I rent out some construction equipment and I am thinking of
>>>>>>>>> putting them on the equipment.  But I need a better understanding.
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