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On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting.  I never got the history map like this in my tests.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 3:40 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>
> Lulz
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am hoping Paul Dowling will release something that fits my needs.  I
>> know he is working on it.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 3:08 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>
>> I would rather pay more upfront and less monthly.  $155.40 yearly plus
>> $69.96  $225.35 end of first year.
>> I would like to pay no more than $7.50 per month.
>>
>> *From:* Jason Wilson
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 2:33 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>
>> I am using this from Optimus.
>> https://www.amazon.com/GPS-Tracker-Optimus-Bundle-Magnet/dp/B01KKVKQ66
>>
>> Monthly/Yearly plan is a bit much.  I have them on my Gator and my
>> trailers.  I will be swapping them out for the direct battery connection.
>>
>> https://optimustracker.com/products/gb100m-easy-install-directly-on-cars-battery-gps-tracker?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=6626974564434&pr_ref_pid=6626927542354&pr_seq=uniform
>>
>> I get a notification when they move.  Battery lasts about 3 months.  You
>> can set up a GeoFence for each unit, so if you are moving equipment around
>> the yard you don't get notifications.
>>
>> All in all I have been very happy with it.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> Jason Wilson
>> Remotely Located
>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>> 530-651-1736
>> 530-748-9608 Cell
>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:04 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Except airtags piggyback on every ios device that hasn't opted out,
>>> whereas tile is only if you have installed the tile app, so the devices are
>>> the same, the 'coverage' is vastly different
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tile is just as good as Air Tag.  It's all based on BTLE locatability.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No but reading about it leaves me with little enthusiasm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have you tried Tile App?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If something comes up missing, can you get in and poll it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:49 PM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had mine for a couple of years.  I'm happy.  Keep in mind the up
>>>>>> front charge covers all the data for the next few years, too.  At $0/mo 
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> much happier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way the units are built I'm not feeling like they were intended
>>>>>> for a battery replacement but once it's dead there's no reason not to pop
>>>>>> it open and see what you can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's reporting once a day and that's what makes the battery last so
>>>>>> long.  Once you know there's a problem, you can enable constant 
>>>>>> monitoring
>>>>>> (which could start anywhere from 1 minute to 24 hours).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The airtags test was a flop.  I put one on my son’s truck without
>>>>>>> him knowing.  It would occasionally report a location while on a busy
>>>>>>> street or highway but most of the time no.  He does not use an iphone 
>>>>>>> so it
>>>>>>> was a good test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The lack of reporting in frequently along with the lack of history
>>>>>>> of the locations make them unusable for tracking equipment for the 
>>>>>>> purpose
>>>>>>> of finding it when it is missing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interested in the thing Paul Dowling is working on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gpsandfleet.com is pretty spendy.  Can you replace the battery?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* TJ Trout
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:02 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's a guy on YouTube who mailed airtags to n Korea and several
>>>>>>> other places just to track them for a video, pretty interesting. They 
>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>> to work pretty good, dare I say almost as good as a cellular tracker?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 9:11 AM Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For trailers and stuff?  I use gpsandfleet.com - it's a $250 one
>>>>>>>> time purchase and works until the battery dies.  Do a 1 poll/day cycle 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it's 3-5 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Recurring payment expense is my main concern.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:46 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a cellular/GPS asset tracker coming out in a few months.
>>>>>>>>> Chuck, happy to let you test it out NC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 7:11 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep ..sneaky and probably illegal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 12:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So free forwarding just automagically happens?  They ride some
>>>>>>>>>>> random persons data plan?
>>>>>>>>>>> I realize it is such a small amount of data but that is a pretty
>>>>>>>>>>> sneaky way of getting a free ride.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The phones will pickup the Bluetooth beacon and relay the
>>>>>>>>>>> phone’s gps to the tracking service.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Basically a GPS by proxy on behalf of the tracking token.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It relies on random folks wandering by and the Bluetooth token
>>>>>>>>>>> snagging enough “air time” to report home.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Bouse
>>>>>>>>>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>>>>>>>>>>> 979-999-7000
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>> McCown via AF
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 12:45 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Being lazy and not wanting to do the research.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do the air tags work.  In other words, how do they get
>>>>>>>>>>> connectivity to the world.  Most of the stuff I have read talks 
>>>>>>>>>>> about blue
>>>>>>>>>>> tooth but that isnt worth anything over distance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I rent out some construction equipment and I am thinking of
>>>>>>>>>>> putting them on the equipment.  But I need a better understanding.
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