My dad was just talking about walls like this and we’re in Indiana. I
don’t know where he heard it from but the guy did it about 20 years
ago here. He said he had to open the door because they were running
out of oxygen LOL
*From:*AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
McCown via AF
*Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:46 PM
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Double walls, so really there are three cavities. Two walls with an
air space between them. Insulation and vapor barrier on the outer
and inner wall with triple glazed windows. I read a report on these
homes being built in Canada. They didn’t need much heat.
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com
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*Sent:*Thursday, January 20, 2022 10:32 AM
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I’ve wondered how long firewood wood really last if everyone was
trying to use it. Wasn’t there a firewood crisis in the 19^th
century before they started using coal for everything?
I think reliance on firewood in the apocalypse comes with an implicit
assumption that everybody else died. If they haven’t died yet then
expect competition.
I don’t worry too much about water. You can’t go anywhere in the
Northeast without tripping over a stream or a spring. If the spring
water is contaminated then so is the well water and you’re screwed
either way.
How much is triple insulation? Does that mean R57 in the walls
instead of R19?
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*Sent:* Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:09 PM
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Triple insulated home can be heated by only the bodies inside.
Most areas (other than where I live) there may be wood to burn. You
could always use a parabolic solar cooker for cooking.
Solar hydronic. Solar electric. Water is the huge thing. Need to
pump a well.
I think move to the tropics where you can eat off the land/sea and
run around naked all the time. That is a good solution to the end of
the world.
Not much of a prepper anymore. Too old I guess. Plus I have an odd
condition where I don’t get hungry. So I could starve to death
without much suffering.
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Maybe it’s a matter of being self-reliant until your solar panels
break vs being self-reliant until your fuel runs out. Years vs months.
*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
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That said, the last time I checked, propane and wood pellets cost
half that of electricity for heating. And natural gas was half that
again. So natural gas vs electric heat pump for heating would
probably be the same energy cost.
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3.41 BTU per watt for resistive heating. Heat pump gives you way
more heat per watt. That is why most of the electric cars have gone
to heat pumps for the heater. The heat pump Tesla will run the
heater for 36 hours and still leave you with enough battery to get
home in many cases.
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>
www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com>
www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com>
*From:*Robert
*Sent:*Thursday, January 20, 2022 7:11 AM
*To:*[email protected]
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Major off topic. Off grid home
The $800 mini-splits I am looking at put out about 6K BTU's of heat
on 400 Watts. The home depot $300 heaters put out 5K BTU's but
require 1500 watts.. Not going to do well in the winter overnight
off grid... And no a/c in the summer...
On 1/20/22 5:53 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
$1895? For a one room ac/heater? Home Depot has something
similar for $300. Is it the decal? Hood ornament?
On 1/19/22 05:13, Zach Underwood wrote:
If you have not already gotten the mini splits take a look at
https://www.hotspotenergy.com/solar-air-conditioner/
It has direct PV inputs when sunny it would put no load on
your inverter
IT can be put in solar only mode where it will scale the
cool/heat output to match the power it is getting PV
It can run overnight if you wish by giving in 240volt AC
connection.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:08 PM Robert
<[email protected]> wrote:
I am working on my first off grid home, and hope to do
another in the
future somewhere more northerly.. This one is in the
sunbelt of N.
Nevada and currently I have 4K of solar feeding a 30KW
LFP battery bank
through currently a Victron charge controller and a
couple midnight
solar inverters to generate a flawed 220 as well as two
sides of 110. (
the 220 will not run the well controller even though
supposedly
configured for such. ) I am upgrading the inverters and
controller to
a
https://www.signaturesolar.com/products/8kw-48v-240vac-split-phase-120a-250vdc-off-grid-inverter-by-growatt
planning on doing a couple 9K mini-splits for
heating/cooling.
I wonder if this group has some gotchas that I might
learn from in
advance before I buy myself into a corner... I'm all ears..
thanks!!
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