I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some ways to possibly resolve things. Ideas are great. Pointing fingers is divisive.
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries and schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard, experinced it happen several times. Don't complain to me about who's doing the defunding. On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote: There has to be a decision made on what we want from police. You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other ethnicity. You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand they be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice you cant demand police protect schools at all times while simultaneously eliminating 50 percent of the school resource officers. You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft presence while you also want them shooting perps in the face. You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police. Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are never ready because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or being arrested for doing their job because the media said so. Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations than police, theyre all people Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all Emergency services. Firefighters dont run into active petrochemical fires the same as they would run into a residential structure fire. There is a line in which the insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the risk. When monday morning quarterbacking gives way to tuesday morning reality, the demands will seem much less realistic I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and light her up. May only the strongest and fastest survive On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote: We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job anymore. We need terminator robots. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: I have been shot at, but never been in combat. I don’t carry a weapon because I don’t want that option. That option is one of the initial starting conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation. I prefer a linear equation. If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably survive a gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking out the shooter. Let the cops do that. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again... True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be more effective. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a school "police" officer who stood back and did nothing. That's not necessarily a solution either. On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police departments so that they can have a regular presence at schools. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: I may regret posting this but I had a thought. How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at schools. They know how to get there fast. They are ready to go at an instants notice. They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors. They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer of kevlar. Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the way to the incident. They sure as hell don’t stand around outside discussing jurisdiction and strategy. They care more about rescue than they do about their own lives. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ________________________________ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
