Uhh..you mean a 45 year old white man? Unless your goal is to get shot. On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:36 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> Time to either identify as a black male teen or hire one as a beard. > > > > *From:* Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2023 1:06 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW > > Josh - has a lot more to do with who "you" are. Black male teen is likely > more like 1/5. 45yo white guy in a good neighborhood is more likely to get > ripped on conduit fees and taxes. I actually live in MN now but my office > is still in Baltimore. > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:43 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> Isn't Baltimore known for its massive growth? >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Baltimore >> >The American city of Baltimore, Maryland, is notorious for its crime >> rate, which ranks well above the national average. >> >> >Your chance of being a victim of violent crime in Baltimore is 1 in 64 >> and property crime is 1 in 33 >> >> Holy jesus that's way worse than what I had in mind. >> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 2:12 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I picked a pretty much random residential block in Baltimore. 225ft >>> long. 30 buildings (counting both sides of the street). There are >>> typically 1 or 2 mailboxes on each building. If I assume 1.5 units per >>> building then there 45 passings (and it’s probably not that many in >>> reality). >>> >>> If that $3.33/ft is per month ….then some back of the napkin math tells >>> me you’d pretty much have to hook up every single house to make that >>> worthwhile. >>> >>> >>> >>> Which means this rule guarantees a monopoly in Baltimore forever. Come >>> on guys WTF. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2023 1:57 PM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >>> >>> >>> >>> $3.33 one time, or recurring? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2023 12:00 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >>> >>> >>> >>> Baltimore City won't give you ROW access any sort of way. They want you >>> to pay $3.33 per foot to use their conduit system. If you need new duct >>> you need to build it, give it to them, and pay $3.33 per foot to use it. We >>> were in the process of leveraging Title II to force them to give us access >>> to run our own ducts under sidewalks when Title II got yanked back in >>> 2017. That's a big part of why we left WISPA. We just gave up on the idea >>> and bought a company in FL and started running fiber. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:49 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yep, a larger town in my area wanted as much for the ROW access as it >>> would cost to buy the fiber and conduit. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:33 AM >>> >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> >>> *Cc:* syssup >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >>> >>> >>> >>> Getting CLEC does *NOT* remove all confusion. >>> >>> >>> >>> In my case, a village has no permits (of any kind), no understanding of >>> ROW, wanted to charge us rent to access the space, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> In others' experience, I've heard DOT/county being extraordinarily >>> difficult to work with to issue a permit. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:20 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] < >>> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote: >>> >>> We got setup as a CLEC to remove all confusion. If you are planning on >>> being in the fiber business, quit messing around and do it right. >>> >>> Jim Bouse >>> Owner - Brazos WiFi >>> 979-999-7000 >>> http://www.brazoswifi.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Larry Smith >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 AM >>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; syssup < >>> sys...@ecsis.net> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW >>> >>> >>> Question for those more in tune than I. >>> >>> We are working (attempting) with our local electric company for access >>> to their ROW for some of our fiber and they have stated that the rights >>> granted ISP's under Title II (telecommunications provider) in 2015 was >>> reversed in 2017 and then in 2018 ISP's were put back as "information" >>> services removing any Title II rights and reverting them to Title I only. >>> Escentially they are saying we have to be a LEC or CLEC to get access. >>> >>> Anyone have a good answer for this ?? >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Smith >>> lesm...@ecsis.net >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Carl Peterson >>> >>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>> >>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>> >>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>> >>> (410) 637-3707 >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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