I usually get a tracking notice and a "out for delivery" notice. Lately I have gotten the "out for delivery" notice both USPS and UPS only to watch on camera the damn truck just cruise on by. We're rural on a dead-end road.  The only USPS or UPS vehicle on our route would be what just drove by.  These jokers don't even slow down.  It's close enough that they could stop and honk the horn and I could come out and get it.  So it's wait till tomorrow, if it don't show then, I file for a replacement for an undelivered item.

On 3/22/23 14:43, TJ Trout wrote:


I also avoid using debit or ach and only use credit that way if a breach occurs it's not my money tied up until it's resolved.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 2:41 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:

    Why pay with a bank account when you can get a 3-5% "discount" for
    paying with a credit card?



    On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 12:49 PM Josh Luthman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        I'm pretty skeptical when a bank tells me they don't see the
        transactions attempting the account. It's only happened a few
        times but it always seems to be a second or third call with
        the customer to get it resolved and all we do is complain it's
        still not working...

        On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 2:51 PM Chuck McCown via AF
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            We are switching over to a debit/atm card to pay since
            they canceled every order since the 18th that was direct
            bank account draw. The bank does not even see them
            attempting to hit the account.
            Best Regards,
            Chuck McCown

            McCown Technology Corporation
            8401 N Commerce Dr
            Lake Point, Utah 84074
            801-250-9503 Office
            435-830-4306 Cell
            www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>
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            *From:* James Howard
            *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:13 AM
            *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Amazon weirdness

            FedEx is a joke.   When they get around to delivering
            (rarely when they say it will arrive) many of the packages
            are damaged.  Sam’s club ships everything via FedEx and
            they throw the boxes out the door of the truck and drive
            away. Have had glass items smashed in multiple deliveries
            by FedEx.

            Lately though, it seems that everything from Amazon has
            been coming via USPS here. In the past, we have had an
            many as 4 Amazon trucks deliver on the same day so maybe
            they’re reworking their system to have some efficiency? 
            I’ve seen 2 Amazon trucks following each other down rural
            roads around here many times.

            UPS has been my preferred delivery until recently. They
            seem to be developing FedEx type of traits recently with
            damaged packages and things coming late but hopefully
            that’s something that won’t continue.

            *From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
            *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 9:31 AM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Amazon weirdness

            Do you guys get delivery directly from Amazon trucks, or
            via USPS/UPS/common carrier?

            I order lots of things from Amazon and have no problems. 
            But almost everything is via Amazon delivery trucks.

            Now FedEx on the other hand.  If something requires a
            signature, it'll take an extra 2-3 days to get delivered. 
            Goes out on the truck, then back to the shop every day
            with no attempt at delivery until the driver must finally
            get mad enough to ring the doorbell.  Only if it needs a
            signature though, normal drop-off deliveries are fine.

            On 3/22/2023 8:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

                I got an email at 3AM saying they couldn't deliver
                anything and I should adjust my business hours.

                I have nothing for them to deliver.  All orders are
                delivered already.

                Maybe ChatGPT 2.0 is changing things not knowing what
                it's doing?

                On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:37 PM Jan-GAMs
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    The robots are on strike!

                    I've had amazon orders that tracking would say
                    "it's out for delivery" and I got the mail truck
                    on the camera driving right on by, not stopping. 
                    The part had to be re-ordered.  This has happened
                    twice this year.

                    On 3/20/23 13:21, [email protected] wrote:

                        No payment issues here.  Maybe you and the
                        employee have same type of credit card or some
                        other commonality?

                        Maybe not related, but I did receive an order
                        last week that was an empty box.  Correct
                        order number and the right size box, but
                        nothing was in it.

                        *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On
                        Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
                        *Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 2:58 PM
                        *To:* [email protected]
                        *Cc:* Chuck McCown mailto:[email protected]
                        *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Amazon weirdness

                        We have been having Amazon cancel orders.
                        Claiming problems with payment.  Just found
                        out at lunch that it is happening with one of
                        my employees as well. Exact same thing. Is
                        this widespread?



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